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New Member
United States
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Hi, folks!  I have a South African 1 rand coin I pulled from circulation in the '80s which seems to have an unusual error. It's from 1977 and the sides are skewed from each other by a degree or two, enough to be obvious to the naked eye when you flip it carefully about the vertical axis (ie. the reverse isn't on the same vertical axis as the obverse). I did a little research and I can't even find a name for this sort of minting error. Also, the obverse seems to have a very faint ring just inside of the outer rim, though it could be my imagination. I can scan it if that would help, though that wouldn't demonstrate the skewing. You have to flip the coin to see that. Can anyone tell me if South African error coins from the '70s are common? Is this sort of skewing error common in general? Does it have a name besides "skewing"? Have I even described it well enough to make sense to you guys? Thanks in advance for any info! -Mo |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hey Mo, welcome first of all!
It's called a "rotated die" error. I'm looking through my SA coins now, but most seem to be aligned perfectly with regards to both sides. A pic would definitely help. Take it with a mirror showing the reverse.
Also, my rand coins are all modern (small, steel ones) so maybe they just got newer and better machines :D
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 Australia
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Very slight rotation errors are relatively common; "a few degrees" would be within the mint's tolerance. The difference in rotation has to be more than 15 degrees for it to be considered a serious enough "error" to gain a premium.
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New Member
 United States
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Thanks for the welcome and the info, folks!
So I guess this is just an heirloom and not a valuable collectible, about as I figured.
Rotated die error is an apt name; I guess it's either not common enough or not desirable enough to have come up on the web sites I checked for descriptions of errors. I'll keep an eye out for anything rotated more significantly now that I know what's considered acceptable to a mint.
Thanks again, and happy collecting!
-Mo
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Valued Member
South Africa
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Hi Mo, maybe a bit more info, this coin is of the
Second Decimal Issue - 1965 to 1990
In 1962 it was announced that a change in the size, design and metal content of coins was being considered. This was primarily due to the increase in the price of silver. Various patterns were struck for consideration by the parliamentary committee investigating this as the increased use of coin automation machines required long term use of the coin types chosen.
Due to the short life span of the R1 notes in circulation these were replaced by a nickel R1 from 1977. Due to requests from collectors and Numismatic Societies a silver R1 of 80% silver was minted for proof sets from 1965 and later also for circulation. These coins can be differentiated from the nickel R1 by their larger size and weight. Although they did circulate in 1966, 1967 and 1969 the silver R1 coins are regarded as a collectors series.As it was the first year of the Nickel R1 coin it is fairly common to have misaligned / error coins in the 1977 ranges. Good keepsake though
Regards
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New Member
United States
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Thanks, Zarboy, for the great info! Any good websites on South African coins for which you could pass along a link?
-Mo
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Valued Member
South Africa
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Valued Member
United States
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This is my coin from South Africa:   |
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New Member
United States
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Russia1981,
That is an incredibly cool-looking coin! I never saw one of those, that I remember, while I was in SA. Thanks for the pic!
Oh, and everybody who wants to see mine, I'll try and figure out a way to scan or photograph it next time I'm at my folks' place. My scanner is there and they have a camera, so I'll see what comes out best. Doubt the skew is going to be obvious from a photo or scan, but I'll try...
-Mo
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New Member
Spain
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Hello I got a 1 rand coin of 1989 , how much is it? I couldn't found info of it ...
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Valued Member
South Africa
169 Posts |
Please describe the coin, or even better, post a pic, there were different rands minted in that year, there is the nickel rand 1977 to 1990, and then also the silver Protea rand 1965 to date.
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Valued Member
New Zealand
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My two appears to be a common thing with the 1989?   Edited by NZStamps
03/15/2026 02:38 am
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