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 Posted 05/31/2011  1:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mrbeno to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here is another coin that I discovered, what do you think? The coin looks more greener in the image as it does by it self. Also is green bad for it? Also any idea of the value Thanks

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Welcome aboard!

This coin appears to have suffered environmental contamination; perhaps, having been in a mylar flip in a humid area for an extended time. If the surface remains untreated, the corrosive matter will eat its way into the copper. Such a process may have already begun, and these older flips need to be discarded.

I'd recommend using acetone, as found in hardware stores. You can find numerous references to such "cleaning" (actually, more like conservation!) on the CCF. Dip one end of a Q-tip into the acetone and gently massage one side of the coin. Then, gently massage with the dry end of the Q-tip to lift the contaminants. You'll probably be surprised as to how much gunk, PVC, verdigris, is removed. You'll likely need to repeat the process a few times with this "Martian" coin. Don't forget to do the edge, too, as these contaminants can and do migrate over time. You'll want to lastly wipe, not rub, the coin dry with a soft cotton cloth. I prefer to store the acetone in small bottles as it can easily evaporate, and I give the bottles to collector friends. Over many years of doing this, not one problem has been apparent in this process; this, as long as the conserved coin was thoroughly dry when put in a holder. You might want to practice this process on a few wheat cents and see how it works.

As to value, I'd guesstimate your coin to be worth $10-$12 in its present condition. The value could double if the acetone conservation works as I'd venture it will. It looks to grade VF-30 to me. It's well worth conserving!
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 Posted 05/31/2011  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrbeno to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a bunch I will go to hardware store today or tomorrow. Glad to be on this forum and thanks for the great advice. I will post more of my new collection that I recently got soon, I still got to go through all of it.
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Exoguy is right on here!

Acetone is exactly what you need. It is pretty harsh stuff and needs to be used exactly per the instructions in a well ventilated place.

You have a nice large cent! I agree (again) with Exoguy, that this would grade VF30 (maybe more with better pictures and less corrosion).

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Something to try prior to the use of Acetone if not familiar with such chemicals would be to use the SEARCH tab at the top for more info. Type in Acetone, coin cleaning, cleaning coins, etc. Get to know all the safety suggestions on the use of Acetone or any chemicals in and around the home.
And here is one more thought. If you don't have a large use for the Acetone, you will then have a can of something that is volitile laying around. If you have numerous coins for such dippings, that is one thing, but to buy something for possibly $5+ for a coin worth possibly $5, makes little CENTS.
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As just carl points out, acetone is a volatile liquid, but so is gasoline that's stored for use for the lawnmower. Coins aside, acetone is a handy cleaning agent to have on hand.

Sure, as just carl says, "to buy something for possibly $5+ for a coin worth possibly $5, makes little CENTS" is certainly true. However, in this particular case, the cost of the acetone will likely be offset by the increased value of this one coin!

From my perspective, I see serious coin collectors as curators, conservators of historic artfacts. If there's anything I can do to extend the shelf life of a coin that's temporarily in my custody, I'll do it; this, knowing that some future collector might someday delight in possessing it, too.
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I predict that acetone will have little or no effect on the green on this coin.
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Without clear pictures of a proper orientation, it is impossible to determine what is going on with the coin. If the entire coin is covered with verdigris, then acetone will have no discernible effect.
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ALSO be aware that acetone can be VERY DANGEROUS! Use caution when using and storing it!

But it can do good things, too. =)
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You folks may be correct in saying that acetone may have no effect upon this coin, but I suspect otherwise; mainly, because there are natural looking brown areas on the high points. It's doubtless worth the effort, I believe. I'll be curious to see the results! Hopefully, we'll add one more, happy conservator to the ranks.
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 Posted 06/02/2011  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrbeno to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let's just say I did a dumb thing, there will be no results on the acetone for that coin :( Well I sold that coin stupidly to a coin shop in my area for a few bucks, was going there just to see what he thought and I got suckered in out of my own stupidity... (I was desperate). I am kicking my self now. But oh well, we all do stupid things. I guess it is too tempting not to try to sell once you receive a new collection. I won't make that mistake again for the new coins. :(

I still have many of coins in my collection that I got to go through and won't let it happen again.

Thanks Again for this great forum and the great members,
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Sorry to hear that, mrbeno. See if you can spot that coin in the dealer's case and, if so, let us know if he reconditioned it.
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