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ID Help - Greek Coin. Double Strike?

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Hello!
I need help to identify this coin. It look as it double striked with two totally different coins? Weigth 6.40 gram Diameter 21 mm

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This is an incredible find. Well done. The undertype is a Roman Provincial from Antioch, with Tyche of Antioch seated right. Zeus' profile on the obverse is still visible. Remnants of the reverse legend remain: ΑΝΤΙΟΧΕΩΝ ΕΠΙ ΟΥΑΡΟΥ. So cool.

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 Posted Yesterday   4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wallet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kamnaskires, thank you. It seems be something like this:

https://www.biddr.com/solnumismatik...63&l=4506357
https://www.biddr.com/nummitra/auct...40&l=5850704
So it's dated something 4-6 BC.

But what is it overstriked with? Is it a coin or something else?
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Yes, the overstrike is a coin. It is Islamic and has Arabic on it. Not my area - but it would no doubt have been struck centuries after the Provincial host coin, which adds to the cool factor.

Just to add...If it were mine, I'd might try reaching out to Stephen Album to see if he recognizes the over-strike. I wonder if it might be Mamluk. They liked occasional circular motifs (as with the one to Tyche's right), like:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8615459
https://en.numista.com/81418

And note the similar letterform on the obverse of that second coin...perhaps the same Arabic letter as on yours. (Although I've seen it on numerous other Islamic issues too, such as: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ph...original.jpg

If Stephen Album didn't reply, I'd probably post at the World of Coins forum (worldofcoins.eu) to help identify the over-strike. Lots of specialists in Islamic coinage there.

The fascinating thing about your coin is the contrast in cultures represented in the strikes, and - I suspect - the great span of time between those strikes. It's a great find.

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Kamnaskires thank you. Nice findings. I also find this.
https://en.numista.com/561791
But it's only the circles and pellets that fits. Interesting if it's overstriked 1000 years later than the original strike.
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