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A Couple More Coins From 450 B.c.

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 Posted 05/11/2012  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Martin. It is not so much that I doubt these coins but that I hate to see people liking this thread running out and buying fakes. Not all that long ago I recall a thread on these coins either here or another list I read where I showed my holdings in Mesembria which I know to include one fake (I bought it as a fake for $5). There are a lot of these coins out there (real and fake) including many that could fool the unwary.
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 Posted 05/11/2012  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too bad these coins are plagued with a bunch of fakes. I'm not experienced enough to deal with Greek coins right now, and especially these silver coins.

I think the OP coins are nice.
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 Posted 05/11/2012  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The Apollonia coin is quite damaged and all the original fakes were high grade. I would say that the crack looks real but I also know that there are folks out there 'aging' (aka scraping on bricks, hitting with hammers etc.) pretty fakes to make them look real.
Something I notice about this coin is the granular surface on the face. If this is due to silver crystallization, that would corroborate the age. While the coin is described as a drachm, it's a bit light--drachms from Apollonia during this time are double that weight. Perhaps this is another diobol?

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 Posted 05/11/2012  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I ended-up sending David Sear a couple of photos of my two new coins and asked him if he thought they were fake, or if he thought that they were authentic, but he kinda gave me the

"gee Steve, I can't tell for sure through a photo, so you'd better send them to me for a closer analysis" ... which is definitely what I'm gonna end-up doing, otherwise the mystery will drive me crazy (right, DVC!!?) ...


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Ancient Coin Fact #1 => and that's why he is David Sear and I'm merely a random putz wondering about my pretty little coins
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 Posted 05/11/2012  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Steve, you're going to get some really solid documentation from Sears on your coins.
Of course, you might save yourself some expense by buying coins from the "short list" of good dealers. Sometime soon, I'll publish my list of recommended sellers.
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 Posted 05/11/2012  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well DVC, I'm fairly sure that coin dude/dealer seems legit? ... I mean gee-whiz, jwharper was even bidding on the same coins!!

Anyway => the dealer has a reasonable refund policy and a stable full of other really beautiful coins ... so again, I'm hoping that he is a good dealer and that my coins prove to be total winners!!

Oh, but as always => thanks for being the Devil's advocate and trying to save me from being ripped-off!! (I really do appreciate your efforts)

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 Posted 05/11/2012  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Steve, I wasn't suggesting you were buying from a bad source. It's great to have documentation; it all depends how much you want to spend for it. I can spend several hours researching a $100 coin and come away pretty confident with its authenticity. It can be exhaustive, detailed work at times, but it's pretty satisfying too. Happy I could help you out too.
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