| Author |
Replies: 33 / Views: 4,931 |
|
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Australia
1295 Posts |
Thanks Walter but I disagree. We recently sent across a $2 coin struck on an under-weight planchet. It was hardly struck at all and still graded MS63.
Edited by markn 07/31/2012 11:55 pm
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Australia
541 Posts |
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
I also look at the sharpness of the beard detail on these coins to pick the differences between a slighly softer strike and a tiny amount of wear.
I learned to pick the difference by looking at comparative coins side by side. Very hard to actually explain the minor difference in this area. Comes down to the amount of lustre within the beard.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Australia
1295 Posts |
Quote:Detail is not the only measure of strike, die rust and other forms of die damage are contributing factors to a low strike grading, have a read of this: http://www.numismatics.com.au/Blog/..nding_Strike You may or may not be right, but when we're talking Australian Commonwealth coins strike doesn't really enter into it until higher grades. Adelaide Pounds are hardly an every day grading experience but I'll keep your information in mind if I ever get to send one in for grading.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Australia
908 Posts |
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Australia
908 Posts |
Sorry my mistake-it actually sold, was watching it for a while but couldn't commit to buying it
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Australia
908 Posts |
|
|
Pillar of the Community
 Australia
7096 Posts |
Quote: Here's another one going off shortly The coin looks OK but I have concerns as to where it is coming from. South Korea is an area where fake coins are rather common place. However I have put a bid on it out of sheer curiosity.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Australia
908 Posts |
The seller looks to be honest and the bluesheet value is at $140 so is getting up to value
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Australia
1295 Posts |
It's a real florin in a real slab. It matches the image here: http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/25545591.html and the larger image here:  It's a bit tricky to match the images because of the different lighting but if you look on the reverse below the space between the O and you of HOUSE you can see the same mark in both images. The images match at least, whether the seller actually has the coin they've posted up images of is a completely different question.
Edited by markn 08/08/2012 04:03 am
|
|
Pillar of the Community
 Australia
7096 Posts |
Quote: It's a bit tricky to match the images because of the different lighting but if you look on the reverse below the space between the O and you of HOUSE you can see the same mark in both images.
The images match at least, whether the seller actually has the coin they've posted up images of is a completely different question I ended up getting this coin. We will all know when it arrives. I have little experience with slabbed coins and will have to ask the question, If I have 2 identical coins in the same type of slab from the same TPG will they have the same weights  I should be able to identify the coin from the pic's Markin kindly posted but I may have to de slab this to verify it's authenticity.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
 Australia
7096 Posts |
I bought another 1927 florin on Tuesday listed as Choice Uncirculated. Will be interesting to see what it actually grades out at. I will of course post scans and pics of it so that it can be graded by my peers here on CCF  Forgot to add the link to the listing http://www.ebay.com/itm/26107670574....m1497.l2649
Edited by trout1105 08/08/2012 8:33 pm
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Australia
1295 Posts |
Quote: If I have 2 identical coins in the same type of slab from the same TPG will they have the same weights What a great question! I'd suspect they'll vary a bit due to bits of extra flash on the plastic slab and the rubber grommet. I'll have a look around and see if I can find some coins of the same type and weight them.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Australia
1295 Posts |
OK, I've just weight 4 New Zealand 3d's that were graded in the same submission and appear to be in the same type of holder. The weights of the slabs were 32.47g, 32.21g, 32.28g, and 32.72g. I'd call that theory confirmed, you cannot use the slab mass as an indicator of coin mass (or authenticity).
|
|
Pillar of the Community
 Australia
7096 Posts |
Quote: OK, I've just weight 4 New Zealand 3d's that were graded in the same submission and appear to be in the same type of holder. The weights of the slabs were 32.47g, 32.21g, 32.28g, and 32.72g. I'd call that theory confirmed, you cannot use the slab mass as an indicator of coin mass (or authenticity).
Thanks Markin, Looks like I will have to de slab this one to be sure. I realy don't have a problem doing this as I usualy do it anyway   Besides if it turns out to be genuine it will be so much easier to take scans and pics of without the plastic  and I much prefer my coins without the slab. I do have better 1927 florins than this one so this will give me a point of referance to grade the better ones. An MS67 is supposed to be the best you can get with these and I'm pretty sure I don't have one yet, So the hunt contiues 
|
| |
Replies: 33 / Views: 4,931 |