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 Posted 08/17/2012  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greenprint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well if we go back to gold or silver coinage after the Apocalypse (I don't see why we would go back to toilet paper money right away after our collapse), making your silver and gold pretty worthless when you can just go to the bank and get coins in a post Apocalypse economy. What else would our new currency be tied to if it wasn't gold and silver?

I also think my new get rich scam will go like this
= get out of college
= secure a good job and make sure I'm one of the best of people at what I do so that way I can have a job in the Apocalypse.
= Post Apocalypse is the time to invest, I'll be buying items to preserve wealth then not now. This is when your currency has the most purchasing power, not now a couple of years before the Apocalypse.

That's the way I'm thinking. Not that you loose money because you get a smaller number, but you get a smaller number because post Apocalypse will have a new currency tied to a material asset (probably gold and silver).

I'm betting on a Apocalypse happening. The USD is only a couple of years away before it more than doubles the longest a toilet paper currency has lasted and we are long past due. Something big is going to happen within the next couple of years.
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08/17/2012 11:33 am
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 Posted 08/17/2012  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your questions, greenprint, suggest that you join
kitco where you would find many more people of your mind-set than here.
Whereas the CCF is primarily for collectors and only secondarily for
stackers, kitco is primarily for stackers and has very few posts about
numismatics.
I spent a few months looking at this site, but when a member there recomended
the CCF I joined and haven't been back since the end of March.
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 Posted 08/17/2012  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swrbxxx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Greenprint,

There is too many people in the world to have a gold and silver currency circulating.

As for a get rich quick scam, I have something better for you!! I'll sell you 1 magic and lucky 1oz silver coin, I have had this coin since I was 16 I'm 27 how have won the lottery, always win at the casino, have a model for a fiancée own a large house, a condo in costa rica and drive some high end Mercedes I attribute all this to this magical and lucky coin that's always in my pocket. Why I am willing to sell, well I always carry two. The price 100,000$ of that worthless US Paper currency... Just think with your small investment a life time of riches will come from carrying this lucky coin
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 Posted 08/17/2012  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There may not be a currency after the "Apocalypse".

Silver and gold are wealth preservation for bad economic times in a world we are use to. They protect you during inflation and sever deflation. I think I would rather keep the metals through inflation cycles and less so in a collapse. In an economic collapse I would rather have a good stash of canned and dehydrated food, water source, good shelter, and guns with enough ammo to protect what I have. If you are dead certain of a collapse coming, I would sell some of that metal for essentials that will not be available when you need them. Gold and silver will not buy what you need when people are starving and running the streets doing what they have to to survive.

The metals will have a value when things calm down and start to rebuild. Value will return only in an orderly world.
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 Posted 08/17/2012  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dave H to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just ask Mel Gibson. Post apocalypse you will need
A) GAS
B) WATER
C) FOOD
D) A REALLY FAST CAR and...
E) A STOCKPILE OF WEAPONS
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 Posted 08/17/2012  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinwatch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I also think my new get rich scam will go like this


greenprint, dude, seriously? If your plan is to get through college with reasonably good grades *and* then work hard after graduation to be the best at whatever it is you'll do? All so that you'll be successful? That plan is not a scam! It's just called being smart.

Seriously, just do the first two steps of your plan. Forget about any apocalypse or WW3 or doomer planning. Make your money, play your taxes, stay out of trouble with the law, and put at least 20% of your investment/savings into physical PMs. You'll do fine.
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 Posted 08/17/2012  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rgathright to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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secure a good job and make sure I'm one of the best of people at what I do so that way I can have a job in the Apocalypse.


Hmmm, then do not bother getting a degree from Harvard and becoming an Investment Banker!
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 Posted 08/17/2012  3:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes it seems better to learn a trade than to go in debt spending thousands to get a degree for a job you can't find.
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 Posted 08/17/2012  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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An ounce of water will be more valuable than an ounce of silver.

LOL! That may very well depend on where you live. Where I live, billions of tons of water fall out of the sky EVERY year! The chance of it being rare, and therefore of high value, here are nil. Someone living in the desert SW will, of course, have a different opinion on this.
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 Posted 08/17/2012  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
greenprint,

An inch of time is an inch of gold, but an inch of gold can't buy back an inch of time.

Use your time wisely and plan accordingly my friend, you are looking way too ahead of yourself.
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 Posted 08/17/2012  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great point Dave H and allow me to add a bit to that thought, lol....

T and all, you knew this was coming and of course post apocalypse what we all have to look forward to rof....

Melt your silver down for bullets....

"The Humungus: There has been too much violence. Too much pain. But I have an honorable compromise. Just walk away. Give me your pump, the oil, the gasoline, and the whole compound, and I'll spare your lives. Just walk away and we'll give you a safe passageway in the wastelands. Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror."


"Narrator: My life fades. The vision dims. All that remains are memories. I remember a time of chaos. Ruined dreams. This wasted land. But most of all, I remember The Road Warrior. The man we called "Max". To understand who he was, you have to go back to another time. When the world was powered by the black fuel. And the desert sprouted great cities of pipe and steel. Gone now, swept away. For reasons long forgotten, two mighty warrior tribes went to war and touched off a blaze which engulfed them all. Without fuel, they were nothing. They built a house of straw. The thundering machines sputtered and stopped. Their leaders talked and talked and talked. But nothing could stem the avalanche. Their world crumbled. The cities exploded. A whirlwind of looting, a firestorm of fear. Men began to feed on men. On the roads it was a white line nightmare. Only those mobile enough to scavenge, brutal enough to pillage would survive. The gangs took over the highways, ready to wage war for a tank of juice. And in this maelstrom of decay, ordinary men were battered and smashed. Men like Max. The warrior Max. In the roar of an engine, he lost everything. And became a shell of a man, a burnt out, desolate man, a man haunted by the demons of his past, a man who wandered out into the wasteland. And it was here, in this blighted place, that he learned to live again..."

"Max: You!
Jedediah the Pilot: Me?
Max: It's your lucky day!
Jedediah the Pilot: It is?
Max: You've got a plane!
Jedediah the Pilot: I have?
[plane motor starts outside]
Max: It just might save your life!
Jedediah the Pilot: It will"

"Aunty Entity: Well, ain't we a pair, raggedy man.
[Aunty Entity laughs and heads back to her truck]
Aunty Entity: Goodbye, soldier."
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08/17/2012 6:05 pm
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 Posted 08/17/2012  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In all jokes aside which is rare for me, that second long paragraph from the narrative point of view at the beginning of The road warrior is kind of eerie how accurate prediction of the future to be one day could turn out to be....

Just like in Orwell's 1984, the time line may just been 25 to 50 years off or beyond.....

But eventually, be it war, something like a super volcano, or major worldly catastrophe, perhaps even a serious sonar blast/EMP from the sun that instantly shuts everything down, this little FRAGILE existence we all know and live each and every day in our little safe place bubble will drastically change if not end all together....

And I really hope its post all our demise, even though that seems like a lot of wishing the way things are going on the global economic scene....

I saw on that ancient disaster show on history where the last super volcano blew like 75 thousand years ago (Toroga perhaps was the volcanoes name or something similar) on an island off of the Asian coast and sent the world into a 1000 year ice age, in which man BARELY survived extinction....

Try an comprehend that kind of change and it happens often here on Earth, more times then we could know in the last 4 plus billion years....

A safe prediction by the writer of this story if that was indeed his thinking, like much of the quatrain's written by Nostradamus. Meaning EVENTUALLY it was gonna come to pass, if not sooner then later....
Edited by Silverhawk74
08/17/2012 6:23 pm
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 Posted 08/17/2012  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some good points Silverhawk74. People always live for today and think that things will never change.
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 Posted 08/17/2012  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks IGE, I hope again it is all post our demise which is real feasible as most of us will be long gone and forgotten say in 75 years, dust in the wind, lol. And good chance we all may come together and find a way to keep that bubble intact the rest of our days....

Strong point you had as well....

"People always live for today and think that things will never change"

Many of the Jewish people living in Germany in 1938 or surrounding areas could have been preached to until they were blue in the face about what was to come and few would have and did take heed in the warning and who can really blame them....

We all got our own problems and hurdles we are crossing every day, which leaves little money or resources combined with thought of planning of a possible dark future. Someone tells you things are gonna change and that you and your family need to uproot and suddenly move away at the drop of a hat. All with no way of knowing how we are gonna eat along the way, or where you will live when you get there. First thing you are gonna want is some concrete proof from that person and even if you fully believe in your heart what you are hearing is true, sometimes you got no choice but to buckle down the hatches at the home front and try and ride out the storm....

I'll hop off the soap box, enough ranting for this day, lol....
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08/17/2012 6:43 pm
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 Posted 08/17/2012  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're right, Hawk. I knew it had to be coming as soon as I saw this thread. But I had an awful, awful day and needed a smile, so thanks.
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