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Quote: Bank of England -- 1 dollar, 1804-1811: Quote: 1912 Penny Well struck for a change Nice adds! 
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Kingdom of Great Britain -- 1 penny, 1800:  
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Quote: Kingdom of Great Britain -- 1 penny, 1800: Very nice! 
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Kingdom of Great Britain -- 1/2 penny, 1799: 
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When you say "Unoficially its been classed in lesser known circles " Richard I am not sure what you mean ?
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Kingdom of Great Britain -- 2 pence, 1797:  
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@ pete It is a known variety by some. I remember london coin auctions having one and describing it as a type set error 6 being struck over 1. Just not documented in any literature . Well none that would be available to us lesser mortals. Unless you have access to the LCGS pop report it is probably on there with amounts and such. I am sticking to my guns its 6/5 the negative image shows the 5 outline quite clearly IMO
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The main problem is there is not any more up to date literature on copper pennies and even if there was some people may still disagree.The coin when first discovered and looked at about seven years ago it was found on the three different REV dies yes REV ,So the theory was obviously especially as some are UNC that the OBV die was a new one with no signs of any wear to the die,such as your own high grade coin.The Coins were looked at by some recognised Copper penny people some of whom have studied Copper pennies for almost fifty years and the opinion and that is all anyone can make due to know Royal Mint documentation was the last digit had been struck as a (test ) strike due to not being fully flush with the die and done in error.The error being due to the date on the die being back to front from the coin it was to produce and was a 1 ,this was then corrected by the six being struck threw the tiny part of both the serif and part of the digit 1 that can be seen in part in the loop of the six.The overlays do make me feel that the 1 was the more sensible and IMO is if anything probably an 1826/1. Everyone only has an opnion but when you have people who specialise in this coinage its always worth perhaps considering there opinion rather than just thinking they are all lesser known circles. All good fun and maybe you are right which is what make the coinage interesting , you will never get a definative answer and just an opinion even should a book be published with it in. The one you mention in LCA that I think from memory was with something else was one of mine that I passed on to someone ,so they could see one in hand . Pete.
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Kingdom of Great Britain -- 1 guinea, 1776:  
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Pete when I said lesser known circles I was having a pop at LCA I know the Penny guys and they know their oats but whatever they say and probably know more about pennies than anyone would not make it to print. If they say it's a 1 I am happy with that. I was only aware of the comment made by LCA and I would take anything they said with a pinch of salt as you know :)
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Can't resist a Gothic Florin especially when it hasn't been monkeyed with. This one looked quite original. This is now the 5th one I have, I need a few more :P 1859 - Victoria - Gothic Florin  
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Richard.The attribution was not made by LCA ,they were just informed by the person who submitted the coin to auction and by talking to others. The attribution of the coin being a 6/1 is always like the 1858/3 and the overdate on the Large date (undetermined number ) large rose open to discussion .However often its worth considering the opinion of people who have a lot more knowledge of copper pennies than us ,who have already spent hours discussing between themselves the most sensible and possibly only logical decision.
Lots are not in print but even ones that are and were put in books a hundred years ago such as the 1841 Bramah 2a.................well thats another one ,so will get my coat LOL
All good fun and whatever you or anyone else thinks the number is its a nice coin.
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Looking good! 
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