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Valued Member
Canada
312 Posts |
Almost back to pre Brexit price levels.......
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1205 Posts |
Until the Bullion folks get their act together(doubtful, as I'm sure many of the folks higher up are "in bed"), and do something about manipulation, ain't nuttin going to change. IF I were a mining company, and, knew this, year after year, I don't think I would find it acceptable. If what goes on in this arena happened anywhere else, you know darn well, the SEC would be ALL over it. They have been busting spoofers, but, that's about it. The big banks are protected...BUT...read this...5 more banks busted!! http://www.kitco.com/news/2016-10-0...ks-GATA.html
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4333 Posts |
Too bad no video with Daniela
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors... Roll hunting since '77 Dirt fishing since '72
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
I dont believe in manipulation. It really doesn't matter what is happening and nothing will come out of any investigations. Big waste of time. More importantly tho is one suggestion I have: where to buy this dip. Let me first say I am not crazy about buying dips. Its not my edge, not my thing. HOWEVER, it is possible buy dips in an uptrend and many traders and investors buy dips in a rising asset. The thing is where to do it. Now, commodities like gold, silver are very violent and it it can move so much that buying the dip can be like catching a falling knife. So is there a way to try and catch it? Some funds that trade commodities, some institutions, in gold, when they buy dips, like to use MAs, moving averages, (remember moving averages are ONLY reference points, not concrete set points) to do dip buys. In gold, some funds like to buy when it drops into the 200 MA or a tad below it. Remember again, they like to do this IN UP TRENDS not DOWN TRENDS. Also remember it is possible that gold could slice past that 200 MA, hence why they do this during up trends. So ok, I know everyone is like, "how the heck do I know what the MA is." Simple go here- http://stockcharts.com/Put any miner in there and it will show where the 200 MA is at. That red line is the 200 MA average, that is an area where some institutions will step in to buy. You can certainly try and follow them in as well. Thought this might be of use to those sweating whats going on.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1205 Posts |
Thanks YUP..you are so right on with MA's. I played around with a 5 year chart last night, 2 year, 3 year, and, 50 day, 100 day, and 200 day average, with GLD(which I personally despise, and think is the world's biggest Pozi Scheme, but, that's just my opinion), and GDXJ... The 1 and 2 year charts show it below 50 and 100 MA, and, barely above 200 day MA. 5 year all 3 are below. GDXJ for 1 year is a tad better off on the 200 day MA, with $39.14 today above the $35.06 200 day mark. 1 thing of interest, from Kitco, Peter Hug...China is off this week. HE states THE biggest player when active, and not on holiday, so, if true, any buy patterns from them are off the table, until next Monday. We'll see how this makes for price action and movement. As far as manipulation, well, here's what's happening, from Market Slant...people can believe what they want...it looks like more proven factors have been caught, and, may be going to trial. I would be very unhappy to see Comex get paid out of court, to settle this..I'm sure the list here "Giving Ammo" - building orders by transferring them between fellow conspirators "Painting the Screen"- placing fake orders to give the illusion of activity and then cancelling the orders when the fixing window closed "Spoofing"- placing large orders that are never executed "Wash Sales"-placing large orders that are executed then quickly reversed "Front Running"- of customer orders in order artificially to suppress the price is being done on ALL equities, across the board, silently, quietly...until someone is caught..that's just the way it is with greed and big money. It's the "norm", so, yes, nothing will get done, except a probable payment in the millions to the wrong people.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1205 Posts |
Got in 50----1997 KEY DATE 1 Oz Silver Maple Leafs, in original mint plastic(I cut 1 open, and, it is flawless, with NO contact marks)...I was NOT expecting the seller to accept my lowball offer, but, they did, so, off to NGC for grading. A MS69 NGC specimen just sold for $255.. Key Date coins always at a premium, with spot price not much of the qualifier. Only 100,970 of these were struck.2014 had 29,245,000 struck, so, you can see why this particular coin is so sought after. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
606 Posts |
@FistFullofDirt,
Daniela is great. One of her favorite guests is Gary Wagner, the person I finally subscribed to regarding Elliot Wave as he provides text messages to sell and buy along with recommended stop losses. So far, it's been a great decision at about $120 a month.
This thread has provided an interesting and entertaining dialog, but I recognize the limitation of obtaining information from anonymous internet posters on a coin community forum (including myself).
However, I still enjoy reading different perspectives:
-Don't sell a month ago, but selling now is ok at much lower prices. -Miners are making 52 week highs and then a week later, SELL! -Buy the dips, don't buy the dips. -Physical versus Paper -Holding for different reasons
I've decided that each individual has different goals and strategies. For me, I like the idea of some physical for the long-term, and some paper for shorter term trading. I've also decided that I have done well when I went back to the notion that you get what you pay for. Maybe in years, I will be as good as Gary, but until then, I'll continue to follow his recommendations as I learn his strategies.
Again, thanks for all of you that provide your opinions.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
@ilikeikes
yea they can work, I am not crazy about them but there are certain times where institutions make use of them like clock work. As another example, the 50 Day is a major bounce area and where institutions come in to buy.
Granted, I have seen times, many times, where MAs dont work for nada and its a matter of watching levels and price. So you have to take into consideration the asset you are trading and market conditions
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Pillar of the Community
United States
606 Posts |
Liki,
Great job on the Maples! Do you prefer NGC over PCGS? If so, how did you make the decision?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1205 Posts |
PCGS? Too long to get my simple orders back(6-8 weeks now), too many mistakes(wrong year on label..wrong coin #, coin rotated, and not fixed , and wrong designations...MS, instead of PL)...NGC? Fast, easy, and a LOT higher PF70 success rate. 69's pretty much have to be "dumped", while the 70's are what makes or breaks an order. PCGS has some "attitude" I do not like, and, "old School" way of business, that is soooo outdated, not user-friendly, and, in need of a huge overhaul. I called customer service over ANOTHER simple mistake they had made, and, NO apology, nuttin...just "send it back" dude........Now, I don't need an apology, it was just their attitude that surprised me, like, "S...Happens Dude get over it".....in this day and age, you pretty much do anything a customer wants to keep them coming back, and, have super-easy return systems in place( Amazon comes to mind, A+ grade)..it REALLY made me wonder who's in charge down in Long beach, with time after time, simple mistakes that really, no excuse for, sloppy, really..just plain sloppy. A plus for PCGS, I have to admit, is their "Secure Label"..that whole system is very good, IMHO...I did do a large order this spring, all with the gold shield, so, I am protected from "swappers" upon resale(buyer opens a claim, "not as described", send back a fake, keeps the good one, and, gets a refund--think it doesn't happen? Your blind, if you do) IMHO, NGC has worked out it's older issues, and, is ahead of PCGS on the overall grade now...wait times, service, accuracy, reliability, returns, customer service, ease of use, and website information, speed of email communication(a lot same day, or, 1 day, vs. 2-3 days for a reply from PCGS). I learned in Management "class"...a customers attitude about a store is only as good as the last visit. My last visit to PCGS left me frustrated, and, feeling so powerless. You want your customers to feel empowered...I know that's a "cliche", but, I feel like I can call or email NGC anytime, anywhere, and, get a good, solid, swift response I can count on. At PCGS, I wait 3 days for information that is snarky...is that a word?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1431 Posts |
Geez...how low does Gold/Silver have to go to break the uptrend?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1211 Posts |
Even when silver was down in the $12-14 range within the last year, I didn't see a huge difference in prices. I typically try to buy unc junk silver and prices really weren't much cheaper even with the lower spot price. I find that kind of odd, maybe folks just didn't want to sell at those low prices.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
the uptrend would be broke and with full confirmation if we hit yearly lows. Yearly lows are 1049.40 on gold, silver is 13.62.
We talked the other day that this would not be a one day event. This will be a process. It will take time for the selling to stop, we will see an area which will give support to both silver and gold.
Correction, pull back, whatever you want to call it, eventually support levels will be found. However, in commodities, when they do pull back, they are like this.
I say its good to see everyone wondering whats going on, it would appear everyone was getting a bit too cozy in the up trend.
I'll repeat- months ago I said this would be a bumpy ride up. So far, its proving to be true.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7390 Posts |
This isn't a bumpy ride. It's a sinkhole that is swallowing up the vehicles! Make it stop yup, make it stop! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2168 Posts |
PMs are most often a bumpy ride!
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