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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would try communicating with ebay first ..... Then try approaching the seller. ebay seems to be much more inclined to side with the buyers. Odd since the sellers are the ones paying the fees and commissions. You can't make the fellow send it to you ..... but perhaps you might negotiate. |
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 United Kingdom
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Talked to the seller. He was hoping for £100 if he had sold the coins seperately. I offered an additional £20 having heard the provenance that Pish found. He's agreed to it. A lot more than Id have originally spent, but money well spent at that.
The gorgon coin is probably worth a tenner, the indoscyth a fiver, byantine probably a few quid - the 2 other greeks I'm not sure about, probably £5-10. But the note is probably the clincher here (im sure that it would be worth a fair bit at auction, but I'm not selling it).
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United States
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I probably in the minority here but I wouldnt have offered any more if he tried that on me. He should have recognized the risks of selling on ebay, and honored the sale. For example, I wouldnt be surprised if the seller of the $23 siliqua I won was disappointed it went for that much (I would be), but they went through with the sale anyway. I hope I dont get bashed for this but thats just my thought on this matter. |
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United Kingdom
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I had a similar situation on a european auction site a few years ago. The seller told me that I needed to pay double what I had bid to get the coin. I contcated the site owner and I was the one who ended up with negative feedback as a time waster with the seller having the negative feedback that I had placed removed. I have not bid on that site since.
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United Kingdom
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VK I think you are right in principle, but it depends on how much you want the item. Practically, you can't make someone post the item and it could get "lost in the post" so negotiation is a last resort. Because of the notes and the provenance, I would probably tried negotiation before I gave up calling his parentage into question.
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United Kingdom
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Yep, I was judging the likelihood of him refusing sale. Not that it matters so much - the note is identifying coins which arent in the lot. Kind of defeats the point, I reckon. I'm going to see if the coins mentioned are in the BM collection from his donations, otherwise I'm passing the lot (unless you guys think the coins are worth more than £30).
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United Kingdom
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Do the sellers have any more coins that could be his?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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This would have been a great lot had the paperwork matched the coins, certainly worth more than you won the auction for and also more than you settled on after the increase.
Unfortunately if they don't match the paperwork then their appeal is reduced.
All that can truthfully be said of the coins is that they probably belonged to Mr Martin. I'd pass if I were you on any price above £8.
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United States
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I don't know about the UK but on this side of the pond ebay reminds buyers that they are entering into a legal contract with the seller. Winning an auction makes you a party to a 'deal'. We have "Small Claims Courts" for such sorts of matters. The seller is a cretin ...... I personally have been 'skinned' more than once on my $1.99 starting price. But I honor my sales. Usually (more often than not !) the next one makes up for my disappointment ! BTW ....... £100 ! The fellow is delusional Edited by FVRIVS RVFVS
12/01/2013 11:09 pm
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United Kingdom
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Some more developments.
Im requesting he goes through with the original contract. HEres my reasoning:
1. The note doesn't match the coins, giving them no provenance
2. The coins are in poor condition (or were poorly cleaned)
3. The note is in poor condition
4. The coins appear to be fake (The gorgon being a silver type with a different reverse, the 2 greeks I couldnt find and the Byzantine coin looking like its been cast in 2 halves and cut from a sheet of them leaving behind 2 sprues and a misalignment between the 2 halves not to mention the fact that the only coin pairing the two designs is a gold solidus or a much later and cruder scyphate - I believe the Kushan coin is real though)
5. He entered a legally binding contract which he shouldnt wriggle out of. I'm being a good sport and agreeing to buy the lot following such revelations.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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On the subject of " Sellers Not Honouring A Sale"... I put a bid on this Lot of 9 Chinese coins. So, they sold for £1.64. Is that my fault? In the payment process I included a message to the seller about the provenance of them, if they came from a Shipwreck? No reply. Payment was made on the 20/11. I noticed from the seller's Feedback that they have a tendancy to post late. Okay, give it 4 days, being posted by "1st Class Post". By the 28/11 no sign of them. Since the Seller never replied to my original message and there was no likelyhood of the coins turning up (even if they had posted on the 25/11 they would have arrived by 1st Class Post by then) I opened an "Item Not Receieved" case. That was on the 28/11. Today is the 3/12 and the Seller has still not replied to the case. Pathetic. I've sold coins, such as a Carausius, for £0.99. I have the "Cojones" to honour the sale, and move on. |
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Canada
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In this case the seller would evaluate between a negative feedback and a $100 lost (of course from the moment he is arguing he doesn't have integrity). If is a seller with thousands of positives feedback, usually one negative feedback won't make great impact.
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United Kingdom
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Netherlands
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This is so unfair for you!I wouldnt accept this Ben!
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United Kingdom
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Dutch, the coins don't match the "provenance" and are possibly fake.....
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Posted 12/01/2013 5:21 pm
