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 Posted 12/29/2013  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not worth the time and effort to sort through these, what is the shipping cost?

But if I were to place a price on the lot $350 max, not much silver there at all, the jeweleries is hard to tell if there's any real silver or gold content. The FDC's album would cost more to ship than actual worth, interesting notes if authentic...
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 Posted 12/29/2013  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mac,

Shipping's free. Like I said, I just don't know enough about this mini-hoard to tell if there's good value to be had. If a lot of the jewelry was sterling, I could recoup a decent chunk of the purchase price just from that. But it could just as easily all be plated; the auction was very light on specifics. I think I'll pass but I still thought it would be fun to debate this auction with everyone. We really don't get as many new topics around here as we did in the past, I guess since silver fell out of the $30 range back in 2012. So many of the old reliable regulars have pulled up stakes and moved on. Maybe they'll come back if silver ever recovers.
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 Posted 12/29/2013  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Baseball didn't like it but he also didn't offer a total value- not much help there, my friend


Lol.

Id value it at maybe 200 or 300 bucks.

Im just going to assume the jewelry is all basically worthless which is why its all lumped in there together like that. Anything of value would have been pulled out and sold on its own.

Like mentioned theres very little silver in it and I'm not entirely convinced all the peace and morgans are real. Most of it just appears to be melt value dimes as well.

The majority looks like very low value stuff. The mint sets are a HUGE pain to sell unless you under price them you could be looking at months and months trying to unload them. The slabs arent even really worth their grading fee. You can get about 10 bucks for the ANACS MS 66 54 S with patience, the MS 65 and 64 you might not even get 10 bucks combined. The Silver eagle you could probably get 30 maybe 35 and no one will care about modern PCI graded proofs.

Im going to assume the quarter set is clad since its hidden and just exposed enough to know its there, but they want you to think its silver hiding the lettering. I've bought at least that many mint sets for around 60 bucks before to break out for albums so not a lot of value there either. The proof sets with the IKes have some value, but again youll be competing against auctions and tons of other ones reselling it so youd most likely be sitting on it a long time to get full value.

Steel cents in packages like that are usually replated so no value there most likely, and there arent going to be any nice indians or V nickels in sets like those either. The copper pound bars look nice but again very cheap.

Bills are the wild card, I'm not familiar with their values but judging from everything else I am just going to assume theyre rather common. I dont deal with stamps much either but I've heard from a few different dealers that when someone brings them in or sells a coin package with stamps they get more value out of just using the stamps on their mail than trying to resell them.

To me this lot is just quantity over quality. Its enticing to think that theres something that was missed that could be a great score, but the quality of what can be identified leads me to believe this was intentionally put together to move stuff that would be a major hassle with little reward individually. I'm guessing most if not all of the jewelry would probably be unsellable at any price on its own. From how its thrown together it looks like someone was just clearing out the stuff they dont want anymore

I think 200 was probably about right for what I would be willing to gamble if I was going to gamble on it. Though Id rather take my chances on finding some gradable stuff in an unopened mint bag of something with that money.
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12/29/2013 11:59 am
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 Posted 12/29/2013  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaymon74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First thing I noticed was a lot of worthless "filler junk". Also as mentioned, You cannot see the value in the jewelry (real or plated). I personally would stay out over $450.00 without seeing in person.
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First thing I noticed was a lot of worthless "filler junk". Also as mentioned, You cannot see the value in the jewelry (real or plated).




This lot is a bit of a mess. If you could put a magnet to the jewellry, you would have a better idea. This is a good lot to filter out by hand.

Actually, my first impression of having to work through this lot, gave me an instant headache...
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 Posted 12/29/2013  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see a lot of JUNK.

Cant see everything. I see a lot of STUFF no one WANTS.

I would only bid 100-200 bucks and thats it.
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 Posted 12/29/2013  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I already mentioned, I didn't bid after it went over $425 but I did go back to see the conclusion and I think the seller's probably quite happy. The lot went for $640. Three people bid over $600 and five distinct bidders went over $500. Thanks to BB's lengthy, and most helpful, dissertation, I learned that if I ever have a bunch of unmovable, low-grade PMs and costume jewelry, I'd be wise to pool it all into one big sloppy pile and let the unwashed eBayers have at it ;)
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i agree, one word comes to mind with that photo... STAGED....
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 Posted 12/29/2013  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allspice to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I learned that if I ever have a bunch of unmovable, low-grade PMs and costume jewelry, I'd be wise to pool it all into one big sloppy pile and let the unwashed eBayers have at it ;)


Good idea! That would help get rid of stuff you don't need and pay off holiday debts at the same time! Just call it a "Mess of a Deal" or "Holiday Leftovers" or "Got too many gifts, HELP"; then throw in tons of pics & extras and start it at $.99 and watch the fun!
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I would have gone $250.00 with the intention of keeping silver for my own collection, the rest would be split between my three kids. I have a box up in the closet for each of my kids and duplicates from bulk purchases and other common coins I get go in there. The thought being when my time comes and they go through my stuff they come across a box for each of them filled with coins and bills. Something else to remember dad by so to speak. Jewellrey would be a one time sale on ebay.
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I must say, you have a very nice collection.
Well done
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I must say, you have a very nice collection.
Well done
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 Posted 01/03/2014  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some silver bracelets in there - any gold in there is a bonus because it's mixed in with a lot of crap. Who knows, though. You might score big on that vinegar bottle spout! Verdigris!

I'd put in a bid if it had a collection of walking sticks. Used pipes, who wants that!? There's nothing to trample someone over with this lot, but it's probably a sleeper with something crazy in there. What tells me it's not a great collection is: drilled coins, VG coins, nothing too outlandish, the stones on the rings are non-existent or common, used pipes, mint sets, bad watches, a Las Vegas keychain (their only parting gift after being cleaned out of their real collection)... This reeks of flea market tables.

A lot of the yellow chains are fake. I can tell just by the shape of the link. The white chain in with the Peace dollars are plated, you can tell by the link joints that they were produced to be plated and assembled later as opposed to assembled and then plated the professional way.

So don't be fooled (and I know you're not, traevin). There are some real sterling bracelets in there mixed with fakes. A sane person would have sorted out the gold and at least had them priced at a few places. That much rough handling tells me there nothing there but that it was photographed to make it look like the seller is playing dumb in the hopes that someone will take a chance with this lot. They played it well by the very fact that the plated item was in the chest and the real item you had to dig for it. Note the name of the seller and move on. He's hoping you'll think there's real gold in there.
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I would avoid this type of auction
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No one, and I mean no one, would sell REAL Gold and silver bracelets like this.
This is a carp lot, and I mean carp.
The stamps aren't worth much, all those covers are common and mass produced.

I have seen these kinds of lots before, just remember, this kind of stuff is always staged, the more pictures the more it's staged. You will see most of the same items, at a different angle, in different pictures. These guys do this to make you think you are getting a huge deal, when you are not. At $650.00, this seller made a great profit.
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