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First Ancient Coin Purchase. How'd I Do?

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 Posted 12/04/2014  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What are some things to look for if it's not real?


Does the seller/dealer have the word 'Gallery' in his name?
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 Posted 12/04/2014  04:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't see anything wrong with this coin from the pictures provided. (style looks OK in this case but lots of fakes are picked this way).

So how do you pick an excellent but suspicious fake?
1. XRF test
2. style (see above)
3. weight
4. cross check for identical coins on the forgery sites
5. unknown obverse / reverse combination
6. check the edge closely with a loupe for evidence of a join
7. check for a verifiable provenance, not just the seller's explanation
8. check the radial flan cracks around the edge of the coin; cast coins cannot accurately reproduce inside the cracks for obvious signs of metal distress inside the crack area
9. buy from a dealer of the highest experience and reputation, who has a vested interest to protect that reputation, and who has the professional staff to back it up.


That is why I suggested XRF testing. In this case, it would be the most telling and rigorous although points 7 and 9 should always be followed for high value coins.
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Sel knows that he talking about. Outwardly I would say you got a good deal. Its a nice coin, but...but...but...your first ancient coin is technically not ancient but medieval but that's a debate for a different thread. Great piece.
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Ancientnoob - Outwardly I would say you got a good deal. Its a nice coin, but...but...but...your first ancient coin is technically not ancient but medieval but that's a debate for a different thread
Just as a matter of interest to a noob to ancients/medievals. Where does one stop and the other start? Is it a year or type change?
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@Bass S Warwick: The technical definition for ancient is anything that is 2000 or more years old. I believe the definition for Ancient when referring to coins is anything minted pre-476 AD; the fall of the Western Roman empire. Of course, the eastern roman empire (aka the byzantine empire) continued to exists until it fell to the Ottoman's in 1453 AD.
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@ Bass- ZXCCCXZ spelled it out. It all depends on the school of thought and where you are in the world. There is no date really. For all intensive purposes you coin is ancient, or at least vintage in the extreme.
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