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 Posted 01/10/2015  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
De-ionised is, for this purpose, exactly as good as distilled water. I get it for about a £1.50 a ltr - dionised, for car batteries.

If you're really pressed, get the glassware and distill some yourself.
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 Posted 01/10/2015  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lol Med :)
Ben I get de-ionised from a local garage. Maybe it is the quality of the crud that makes me think it is not as good as DW! I don't have the space to set up the glassware.
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 Posted 01/10/2015  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Scratch that Ben, think I found a way.
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 Posted 01/10/2015  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuy1530 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ben is correct, DI water should work at least as good as distilled for this purpose.
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 Posted 01/10/2015  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has what coins crave, electrolytes.


Removed video, has no bearing on what this thread is about. echizento
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 Posted 01/10/2015  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All apologies, I thought those compounds were electrolytes.
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 Posted 01/11/2015  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hey BCG....electrolytes are also what plants crave!

pish, have you ever tried distilling your own water?

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Distilled-Water

there are some youtube vids as well that may be helpful.

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 Posted 01/11/2015  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Chrs, yes tried that method today. Not hugely successful, got a bit of water out of it, but very wasteful in my opinion. Have asked Ben for suggestions. The table top distillers are way too expensive.
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 Posted 01/12/2015  06:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Snake oil works best !
If you can't buy any snake oil try some cooling water from Fukushima Japan. Lots of rare isotopes !
Your coins will positively "glow"
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FR am googling "cooling water from Fukushima" now
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 Posted 01/12/2015  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well they are using seawater right now to cool Fukushima, but otherwise heavy water or deuterium oxide would be safer than anything that contains a salt.
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 Posted 01/12/2015  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An interesting question - would heavy water (of any sort), be a better cleaner? Its dipole moment is slightly greater but its viscosity is quite a bit higher (perhaps reduced contact and mobility of ions in solution - could make quite the difference). Its density is also slightly greater and the heavier the water the lower its pH (it becomes slightly alkaline)...I reckon it probably would function slightly faster for cleaning, but not all that much.

Would have to do some reading on the actual action of the water and what really limits its ability to clean. Who knows, there might be a better solution to the problem.
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I know this is very off topic

For personal reasons I have long had a fascination with that 'other' disaster.

I recently watched a BBC docudrama about the events of April 26 1986 in the Ukraine.
Rarely has a one hour television production brought me to my knees (so to speak).

In brief (as I learned elsewhere)
28 Firefighters died trying to put out a fire the likes of which they had never seen. A pillar of plasma glowing blue red and yellow rising 1000 meters from the ruins of the reactor #4 building.
Over 600 Soviet helicopter pilots perished after flying thousands of flights over the exposed core dumping sand on it to slow down the emissions.
Lastly 2 Soviet Navy divers volunteered to swim beneath the doomed reactor in order to drain off the water the firemen had vainly used on the burning building. This was to avoid a thermal detonation which the physicists predicted would render the entire Ukraine (and more) uninhabitable for centuries. They never returned. Perhaps they wisely choose not to even try.

I will not post the link but google will bring you to Youtube
Brace yourself. Aeschylus (the father of tragedy) could not have imagined such a tale.

Exodus 33:20
"Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live"
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 Posted 01/14/2015  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ben, to answer your question I think any difference between regular DI water and heavy water would be negligible as far as cleaning is concerned. When I was in college I shared lab space with another guy who was using HW for some type of Iodo-form Kinetics experiment, and the stuff was mondo expensive. When we did the math it was $25 per drop.
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You can get a 10 gram bottle of heavy water for $12. I'd have to give some thought as to whether it would be better but I doubt the differences would be noticeable.
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