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 Posted 09/29/2015  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's called "situational ethics".

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 Posted 09/29/2015  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The manager doesn't have to cover it.


Depending on the type of store the manager does have to cover it out of "pocket". If you ate at a franchise, then the manager has an income of the stores profits. that 7 cents and any further like it eats away at the managers paycheck. the grunts get paid wages, but eh manager of a franchise only takes home what final profits the store has after costs, including paying the grunts. Also legally he can take it from the wages of the employee. I have never heard anything stating otherwise and unless it is a cash of waste food (Burger King has to throw away several patties at close). The cashier is responsible for the til coming up correct including them losing the money. The cashier also doesn't get to keep the extra in the til when someone says "keep the change" because that money kept will have no receipt where taxes were collected and must be made even by someone.

Now it may be a case someone left change prior that allowed them to have the drawer balanced, but any shortage can easily and legally be taken from the cashiers pay and having overage in the til is just as big a problem for a manager and business when taxes time comes. Unless you want to get audited and have some receipt or proof that random customers just told them to keep all the change.

@n9

true it could be written as a loss-leader type situation, but you cannot assume it will be guaranteed. Also in those cases it is not per till, but per day of ALL the tills in that register. If every til was allowed to be short $2 with the number of cashiers that could cycle through, then the volume of money lost on such already explains higher prices on EVERYTHING, they can take the loss cause they already padded the price and everyone is subsidizing those loses whether it if for their benefit or not. Honestly, why should I have to pay $6 per gallon of milk because they can't better balance a til? If the cashier needs more time to get through more customers, maybe they shouldnt have 12 registers with only 2 of them open at any given time. Hire 1 more cashier, or let the manager do it and do his after horus work... after hours when the store is closed.

I was once the person in Walmart spending rolled halves, which they didn't want to take and wanted to open them to count and a woman behind me asked if I minded selling them. I explained they weren't silver and all were exactly what the wrapper said. If she wanted them I didn't mind It was only money to spend to me. So she took 2 of the rolls I have in my pockets, and the lady between us took another roll. I still had the 2 rolls already on the counter being counted and let Walmart cashier continue counting them to put in his register, plus some loose to finish my purchase. (I always carry a handful of extra halves since I get them by the box now.)

Wanted a salad today and forgot I was out of lettuce, so went to the store with $2 (bills, my coins don't come in until the month begins again) for the $1.01 purchase. Guy hands me one of the dollars back.

well there's 99 cents I didn't get to see, could be a missed chance for the Bombay Hook quarter, a silver roosie/merc, Wheat penny, 1950D nickel... WHO KNOWS what I could have gotten from that assortment of coins still trapped and imprisoned in the cash register!

*Note: A coin I should have gotten in change but didn't get means it was something of either great worth I was intended to get that I wouldn't want for my collection and could sell, or was a hole filler that I missed.
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 Posted 09/29/2015  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steele to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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who doesn't love getting a few extra cents and not have to carry around heavy coins


This Guy. I hate it when I don't get my coins.
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09/29/2015 7:06 pm
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 Posted 09/29/2015  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When my total comes to $$.99, they always give me the penny.

If I say "Keep the change" to a hot girl, I'll probably get slapped.
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 Posted 09/29/2015  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow you people are nerds. Glad I'm not alone -
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors...
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 Posted 09/29/2015  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shadz, many places in my area regularly round cash totals down, as much as to nearest dollar. It saves time and rewards cash payers. Why? Electronic payments are not free. The vendor is charged a percentage of each transaction, a fee that they cannot or will not pass onto the customer.
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 Posted 09/30/2015  02:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dagaz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, in this part of Europe this also happens quite frequently - and to my annoyance. But rarely for more than 5 cent and most of the time when stores are short on small coins. Then there are other stores (like Aldi (called Hofer here)) that have so much coins in cash register I always get distracted :)
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 Posted 09/30/2015  03:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@jbuck

Well that ain't my area. You either pay it all or you get nothing. Only when its 2 cent range will it happen like yesterday, they want anything over 3 cents.

electronic payments depend on company you are using and what account you have with them. Not all have a per transaction fee, but you still have the monthly cost and machine rental costs which should be subsidized by all company business jsut like any other bill (phone, electricity, water, etc.)

Where you live must take some weird forms of electric payments. I heard a woman in the grocer asking if they take Google, and the manager came and told her no, they take only monetary payments.
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 Posted 09/30/2015  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steele to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Not all have a per transaction fee

I've never seen a credit card merchant account that doesn't have a fee per transaction. Either a percentage or a flat fee, often there is both.
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 Posted 10/01/2015  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree. EPP fee on every transaction.

I do not think Shadz knows how to verify the things he hears. I am still waiting for him to cite the state law he claims requires all banks to take rolled coins for deposit.
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