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End Of An Era For RCM's Silver Dollars?

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 Posted 12/24/2015  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great stuff SilverDon! Thanks for sharing!

After the holiday, I hope to find the time to take a group shot of my SD collection so that I can post it here.


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The 1971 through 1980 commemorative silver dollars were classified by the RCM as being "Specimen" strikes not BU - all of canadian_coins fantastic images are of Specimen SDs not BU coins.


Actually, in terms of strike quality, 1981 to present are still specimen quality. The lined finish on other "specimen" coins post-dating 1996 and the mirror "BU" finish we see on the single cased silver dollars are recent descriptive terms. "BU" coins from 1981 to present are still struck in Ottawa, exactly the same way that "Specimen" coins were struck from 1971 to 1980.

I am not saying it is correct nomenclature, it is a grey area when looking at the strike quality of coins. US third party grading companies have wrestled with this with mixed results. They would consider ultra heavy cameo proof-like strikes with fresh dies to be proof strikes, by US standards. Do we grade and classify these coins by what the mint tells us they are, or by their strike qualities?
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I did find an old picture of a "true" BU dollar.

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 Posted 12/25/2015  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Do we grade and classify these coins by what the
mint tells us they are, or by their strike qualities?


I have always found the Specimen Silver Dollar versus BU
description of Brilliant Legends and Devices on Brilliant
Fields as identical for Specimen Silver Dollars '71-'80,
and BU dollars '81 - Present. I see the BU described as
simply Uncirculated for the series in some reference books.

It is hard to keep the nomenclature straight in my head.

Especially when more recent Specimen Set issues turned
into the Reverse Proof - linen field and lustrous devices.



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After the holiday, I hope to find the time to take
a group shot of my SD collection so that I can post it
here.


Can't wait to see your collection Commems,
should be a great display.

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