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Quote:If you want a TPG uncirculated example within your budget, then it will have to be a common date (there are many). If you are truly interested in scarcity, even in a circulated example, then you should buy one of the excellent books available on this series and decide for yourself. No one with a grand to spend should take the specific advice of anyone else on a forum like this. Quote:
I agree, Coinfrog; I'm not planning on buying one right away, just wanted a starting point to work from. Books are great resources, but actual experience from real collectors is just as valuable. When I want to buy something "big" I will usually consult CCF and then do my research afterwards & end up with a pretty good idea, and then browse coin shows if they come around to "get a feel" in hand. Coinfrog makes an excellent point about books and might I suggest Indian Gold Coins of the 20th Century by Mike Fuljenz... It has a wealth of information from costs to mintage to rarity... I just picked two copies of his newest one at the NRA Convention (one of which he personally autographed himself) and got to talk to him and shake his hand... It was a true honor... Edited by Bryan78
05/21/2016 8:04 pm
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Are the 19th Century gold coins worth more than their 20th Century counterparts? If you compare $20, $10 Liberty Head with Saint-Gaudens $20 or $10 dollar coins is it just rarity and gold prices that make the value? I also read and hear that gold prices may be off to the races again, but I would not buy just based on that bit of news from Business news shows on CNBC. Precious metals prices move very fast and you could buy $100,000 in gold today and a year later just have $50,000 or maybe $200,000. Also bull markets in gold affect gold coin prices just as a bear market would affect them. The bear markets just seem to last much longer like 20 years and the bull markets 2 years.
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Are the 19th Century gold coins worth more than their 20th Century counterparts? If you compare $20, $10 Liberty Head with Saint-Gaudens $20 or $10 dollar coins is it just rarity and gold prices that make the value? I also read and hear that gold prices may be off to the races again, but I would not buy just based on that bit of news from Business news shows on CNBC. Precious metals prices move very fast and you could buy $100,000 in gold today and a year later just have $50,000 or maybe $200,000. Also bull markets in gold affect gold coin prices just as a bear market would affect them. The bear markets just seem to last much longer like 20 years and the bull markets 2 years. IMO, anything pre-1933 would be worth more than anything today due to lower populations... Anything minted after 1933 would have mostly bullion value whereas anything before that would have both bullion and numismatic value... |
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When looking at some of the truly low mintages of Liberty Head Eagles and Double Eagles it seems they should be worth a lot more just based on rareness of these coins compared to Saints and other 20th century gold coins. I have been told that there is not as much interest in the Liberty Head gold coins? Since I have neither 19th or 20th century gold coins at present it does not matter that much to me. However, if gold prices fall significantly I would be a buyer. In 2010-2011 we had the top of a precious metals bull market. Since I don't have second sight I don't know where gold prices will be in a year or ten years. I might buy the rare circulating gold coins if I feel like going on a spree.
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Picked up a PCGS slabbed $2.50 Indian today @ TNA without using up my budget, will update this w/pictures soon, it's a nice 1926 -- common date but good type coin.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Picked up a PCGS slabbed $2.50 Indian today @ TNA without using up my budget, will update this w/pictures soon, it's a nice 1926 -- common date but good type coin.
 Congrats! Edited by Bryan78
05/22/2016 9:27 pm
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Thanks! It's my very first gold Indian & only my 4th gold coin of any type (1886-S $5 NGC MS62/CAC, 1874 50c fractional PCGS AU58, 2008-W $5 Buffalo PCGS PR70DCAM)
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Nice coin with great luster! What was the grade on that coin?
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PCGS MS63
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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I mainly buy/sell/collect $2 1/2 Indians. If you ever have questions, need advice, or are looking to buy, shoot me a message. Nice looking coin!
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I see the spot price of gold has dropped a bit. This is what kills me about buying more common gold coins is the degree to which gold prices affect the price of gold coins. If gold were to return to inflation adjusted price with 100 year baseline I would be a buyer of gold coins. The thing is that the price of gold never just stops at its mean adjusted price. It either overshoots where it should be or undershoots it, so you never know where the price will be ten years, five years or even a couple of years from now. Silver is the same way but just not so much. I remember buying Sterling silver bowls and plates for just $7.50 an ounce at auction in 2003. 7-8 years later silver was selling for $30 an ounce. This was due to financial meltdown and "fear" in the markets.
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I just started to get serious about 2.50 USA gold Indians and bought 3 of them within the past month....the 1927 is uncertified and the 1926 is NGC MS 61..the 1929 is PCGS MS62...the thing is that... to me.... they all look to be AU due to flatness in the headdress feathers which looks like trace wear along with other flat areas in details on the bands and braids etc..The reverses all seem crisp and the lustre is subdued but present to varying degrees....I almost returned the uncertified coin because I wasnt impressed with these facts but I decided to keep it ..When I got the certified coins I realized that the uncertified coin is actually better! I apologized to the seller for telling him his coin wasnt BU as advertised on ebay....Is this just a striking problem or do these coins get better treatment from the grading companies due to scarcity? Ive collected Indian Head cents for years and they are much more strictly graded.....so I'm a bit confused about these coins |
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looking at 2010 Handbook of US coins by Yeoman I see that 2.50 gold indians were priced at about 160-250 for AU-MS 60 ..The price of gold in that year was about the same as it is now which was about 1200.00 for most of the year until Dec when it got to 1400...These days prices are a bit higher so is it safe to say that these coins depend on bullion value for their price if they are average coins say MS 60 or less? and as I mentioned previously there does not seem to be a big difference between AU and MS 62 in the way gold collectors grade these coins |
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