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I'm always surprised, amazed, and disappointed by talk of quasi-government-conspiracy-nonsense.
Back to the point, If the dollar ever becomes worthless as a currency, the dollar and its components ( nickels, dimes, the rest ) will continue to be collected, hoarded, and revered as they are now.
It's important to remember the US economy is strongest BY FAR in the world.
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Ok...lets pretend we are in fantasy land and the governments want to issue the "Amero".
Would the governments have to buy the rights from Daniel Carr, since he has already made them?
Or would they just use another name?
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What? You mean you all aren't using them yet? Where have you been....  MM  |
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If the Dollar tanks completely, the whole world monetary system will likely follow and you'll have a lot more to worry about than the value of your coin collection. It would be a situation that would not be fixed by inventing a new monetary system.
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Back to the point, If the dollar ever becomes worthless as a currency, the dollar and its components ( nickels, dimes, the rest ) will continue to be collected, hoarded, and revered as they are now
Well maybe there will be as many collectors as they are now but the monetary value of the items will be worthless, as I said just look at all the other countries that have changed currencies and look at what happened to the currency they used beforehand, it is pretty much collected as a novelty piece but as far as value it has none |
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United States
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Gold and Silver have remained flat in value over millennia.
It is only the measure of fiat currency that changes against commodities including Gold and Silver and more recently Platinum etc.
The "business cycle" is an invention of Keynesian macro-economic theory. Fiat currency and the attempt to control the value of said currency through central economic planning is the root cause of boom and bust cycles. If we had a real gold standard (not like we did after 1913 which was a kind of pseudo gold standard) monetary value fluctuations would be minimized as would the boom and bust cycles. The only reason we have a central bank printing fiat currency is so that our government can grow unchecked. We have been robbed of most of the value of our currency by the banks.
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United States
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Mark, you pretty much nailed it. It is that very same Kenynesian School that will lead to the Amero and eventually a single world wide currency... can you say Eartho?
--gary
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Would the governments have to buy the rights from Daniel Carr, since he has already made them?
Probably not, since they could easily argue that the term "Amero" predates his use and they would use new designs to avoid confusion. Then they would probably make his Amero retroactively illegal and seize them as "counterfeits". quote:
A very good video on the subject of money.
 That video was posted in another thread a while back. If you missed it then, take a look at it now. Then be prepared for a few sleepless nights! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wow, that video is......garbage! You should really be careful about where you get your information from:
The person who made the video is a two time college dropout who made the movie on his home PC with his wife (at least that's what his bio says). He likely knows as much about economics as I do astrophysics.
The references he gives for the film are a complete joke. Most are the web pages of his moon-bat friends. The only reference that resembles a properly written article is not peer reviewed, so you can throw it in the trash heap with the rest.
Finally, watch the title screen at the beginning of the movie. You'll see that it is a Lifeboat News Production. I would encourage you to visit their web page. Then you can learn about how 9-11 was a government conspiracy.
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Valued Member
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Amero Dollar = North America, South America, and Canada?
Canada occupies more of North America than the US, when you say North America that should automatically include Canada. Another thing to remember is that Canada's got arguably the strongest currency out of them all. I think the government is intentionally trying to reduce its value so that exports to the US aren't affected. Edited by grmike
03/12/2008 4:08 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The person who made the video is a two time college dropout
Robert Frost, Frank Lloyd Wright, Ted Turner, Brian Williams, Steve Jobs, and Bill Gates, were also college dropouts, just to name a few. But I guess that makes them morons too... quote:
The references he gives for the film are a complete joke. Most are the web pages of his moon-bat friends. The only reference that resembles a properly written article is not peer reviewed, so you can throw it in the trash heap with the rest.
I tell you what I will send you my macroeconomics 101 book from college (which I also never graduated from, and I am not ashamed to admit it) with the pages that deal with everything he talks about highlighted. I will even pay the shipping if you will actually try and learn from it. Would that be reference enough? quote:
He likely knows as much about economics as I do astrophysics.
Then you must work for NASA, because I think that was a very good presentation of an extremely confusing subject that he obviously has an excellent understanding of. Maybe you cannot accept, believe, and/or understand it, but look at the financial section of any major newspaper today, and you will see the FED and the Govt. doing everything they possibly can to prevent the collapse that could happen because of this practice. The fact that they have no reguard for the concequences of their actions (the massive decline of the value of our fiat currency, AKA the US Dollar) should be proof enough of how serious the situation is. I'm serious about my econ book, I think I still have it, and if you want it I will send it. But for the time being believe me when I say the facts of that clip are just that- Facts. Not opinions, not theories, not conspiracies, FACTS. |
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I will admit, economics is not my strong point, but I did take an econ class for an elective. Yes, I did graduate with a BS in Computer Science.
The course covered the history of banking, the structure of the Federal Reserve system, and how it affected economies (macro and micro). When I peel away the "conspiracy slant" of the video, what remains matches what I learned in that class.
I still have the textbook and my notebook packed away in my "archives". I should reference them to be sure I do not have faulty memory ("use it or lose it" applies here).
Disclosure: many of my college professors were left-leaning, so that must be considered when weighing my arguments.
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Valued Member
United States
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snowman, if you're looking for an educational video with "good references" check out this link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...ch&plindex=2It basically tells the exact same thing and it has a VERY detailed and authentic bibliography. The information in these videos are fact. There is no other way to put it. Every dollar is an IOU for one dollar + interest. Remember back in school when you learned about Andrew Jackson and his absolute hatred of banks? Most likely, no one in the room knew WHY he hated them and laughed at this silliness--I bet the teacher didn't even know. They don't teach us about it because if everyone knew their dirty little secret THERE WOULD BE REVOLUTION. The entire monetary system is based on lies, debt, and corruption. It is not the opinion of a couple crack-pot conspiracy nuts...It is fact. And MorganNoob--Add my name to that list of yours ;) --gary EDIT: jbuck, many right-wing economists see the scam as well--I have studied (on my own and through email) under a couple of them and they tend to agree with their leftist colleagues Edited by GFR3
03/12/2008 6:36 pm
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jbuck, many right-wing economists see the scam as well--I have studied (on my own and through email) under a couple of them and they tend to agree with their leftist colleagues
I don't doubt this! But I had to give full disclosure on my sources and the potential bias.  |
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