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1966 Specimen Dollar

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I have 4 of the 1971 BC specimen silver dollars in the black clamshell case. I ordered them from RCM in 1971. All are nicely toned and are choice coins.

Now I need to check them for the appearance to match your 66, which is a very nice coin.
Also what is the mintage for the specimen coins? Not shown on Canadian coin facts, only nickel dollars.

Thanks dollarman
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Also what is the mintage for the specimen coins?


For 1971, I think it is something close to 33,000 (at least that's what it says on certain websites I check).

In the 1960's (except the 1967 centennial), there were a lot less specimens made. I'm not sure if there is an exact mintage, or if it was based on number of orders. I think there are people who have estimated, but those are just estimates.
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Nice looking dollar you have there thedollarman, great
cameo - UHC, so was this coin a part of a specimen set?
Interesting that PCGS called it PR.


Mintage for the 1971 Specimen Silver Dollar BC Centennial is 585,217.
Reference J & M;

https://www.jandm.com/script/getite...CID=5&PID=29

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Nice looking dollar you have there thedollarman, great
cameo - UHC, so was this coin a part of a specimen set?
Interesting that PCGS called it PR.


thanks, i'd say it is a cameo, maybe a heavy cameo. I only say this though because iv'e seen 1966 SP dollars marked as HC which have an unbelievable frost. I'm not sure if this was part of a set, iv'e seen a 1966 SP dollars for sale but never any decimal coins..good question. the more I look at these the more the difference between PL and SP becomes like day and night to me.
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The 1966 Specimen Dollars are probably legit and are not back door jobs unlike a lot of the other mid to late 1960s questionable products. Story starts with the 1964 Charlottetown commemorative silver dollar. Specimens were purposely struck and were presented to foreign diplomats and government officials. Some were even presented in a rather simple cased dollar type case with a poor rendition of the old Canadian Coat of Arms.
The Mint knew they were going to make a Specimen Quality set with a 20 dollar gold coin as early as mid 1966.
The Hull branch mint office struck a bunch of coins that were Specimen quality and distributed them through legitimate channels. In fact there have been SPECIMEN EXAMPLES obtained in prooflike sets.
Nice coin the OP has shown. Too bad PCGS has no idea what they slabbed. Proof is a rather poor choice of descriptive.
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Pacific, that's really interesting history, thank you for sharing that.
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here is what pacificcoin is referring to about the 1964s in original red box. I got one of these too actually but the coin has been cleaned. it was confirmed as a specimen in hand by a dealer but due to bad images most of the forum doubted it was a specimen.

http://cnc.forwardsim.com/auction/1...sale/lot/250
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@pacificcoin thank you, I love your posts. you're a real wealth of knowledge. I really like the 1964 SP in your ebay store too
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Thank you . We have owned a few of those over the years , but only ever had one with the box you described. That came out of Spinks London back in the 1980s. The boxes are fairly crude looking ( more like something from the 1940 s ).
Almost wondering if the red boxes were private issue rather than RCM.
Spinks, Elkingtons and others have supplied fitted coin boxes for " Donkeys Years".
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so maybe you have an answer for me...i recall (i think, like 95% sure) that I saw in the ICCS pop report a single 1963 specimen dollar..that struck me as odd..is it likely a mis-attributed PL or what? any info would be wonderful and much appreciated. also, beside 1953, 1964, 1965, 1966 and 1967 specimens, were there ANY made in other pre '67 elizabeth years?

also I got to see a 1953 NSF dollar SP-66 at the show...and holy cow it was an unbelievable coin, seeing that high relief in a fully mirrored completely struck way is just so amazing!
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Great info. You folks gave me a lot of great help

I didn't know RCM made that many different silver Dollars. Kind of like the US and other countries that have the cheap metal for circulation minting they had to sell the SP, PR coins that will help keep collectors interested in collecting.
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so this coin is in a PCGS slab that has scuffs and has the outer ring missing(which is kinda common with this type of slab). I like the added protection of the slab and easier storage but would I be better off just sending it to ICCS and getting it in one of their holders?
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so I dropped it by accident and of course of of a corner got chipped off it's fine as i'll be sending it to ICCS for cross grading as well as PCGS for a new slab.
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