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The 2017 Silver Dollar Releases, Plenty Of Bucks!

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 Posted 07/28/2017  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trimble to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Almost everything the RCM puts out is a medal/medallion of some sort regardless of any denomination on it. If it isn't meant for circulation, does it matter what it's called or who mints it?

I do buy some of the RCM stuff that catches my eye...so I like some of their medals too.
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 Posted 07/28/2017  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Electrum to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
trimble - yes 5 oz coins are like medallions and the kilo coins are arguably like cylinder blocks BUT if coming from the RCM - they are legal tender and symbolism reigns for some of us...
Regardless, all good.

CC - love the dog / cat comparison.
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 Posted 07/28/2017  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Wildflower - indeed the passion is evident in you...and as always, thank you and others for the often very informative views/opinions.



You're welcome! Still somewhat off topic but it's interesting to reflect back on history when things were not always the same. In the days when RCM minted only high quality sets or singles of circulation coin, I'm thinking primarily of the 60s, for example when Lombardi Mint and at the moment I can't remember the name but it was a BC company and produced silver art bars. Anyway back then my point is private mints held the market for celebrating various commemorative occasions and whether or not a chuck of silver possessed a denomination wasn't a concern for folks who wanted to buy a commemorative medallion or what not
because that was just the way it was.

Flash forward to 2017 and RCM has so far issued six 36mm silver dollars even though the coin it replicates also vanished from circulation in the 60s.
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 Posted 07/28/2017  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Almost everything the RCM puts out is a medal/medallion of some sort regardless of any denomination on it. If it isn't meant for circulation, does it matter what it's called or who mints it?

I do buy some of the RCM stuff that catches my eye...so I like some of their medals too.



Other than the XforX coins, interesting viewpoint, thinking about it I don't think there's a difference either. I can't imagine being thrilled to a day when any one silver dollar is worth $1.00.
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 Posted 07/28/2017  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Electrum to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wildflower -
researched that BC company...was it COMINCO MINES TADANAC ART BARS?
I see your point clearly - these private mint companies - were the creative guys -
No question, RCM in the early years - zero creativity...same design year in year out...except for year and Royal effigy when required after the King/Queen passed away.
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 Posted 07/29/2017  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add falcon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This has got me thinking about my collection of nickel, loon and silver dollars and what I have chosen to display with them.
I'm out of town working for a bit so I can't attach pictures.
In my collection I have Voyageur pins,Loon stamps, Loon Watch, hologram Loon, Kaleidoscope Loon, Two Loons, baby Loon and the list goes on lol.
To me the list is only as long or short as my bank account and imagination.
There's also a middle ground of silver Loons, gold Loons, gold plated silver dollars and Loons.
I also have a medal in my collection ...not sure where I got it but it has a bunch of images of the old silver dollars on it.:)
So to me ... It fits ....not sure if I'd care if anyone thought otherwise ;)....
Pics to follow
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 Posted 07/29/2017  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Wildflower -
researched that BC company...was it COMINCO MINES TADANAC ART BARS?
I see your point clearly - these private mint companies - were the creative guys -



You got me stretching my memory and Ladysmith popped into my mind. What I was thinking of was Jerry Parker .999 silver art bars, stamp like replicas. Incredibly artistic.. I recall he eventually relocated to the US.

But my google search for the name amazed me, the huge number of Canadian private mints back in that period of time. Yes, you're sure right - private mints were the creative guys and the consumer benefited by competition and option to choose.
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 Posted 07/29/2017  01:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ falcon Just my opinion, but I think your loon collection will sustain above average value into the future because new collectors can relate to it. Folks like me who are late 50s and older got hooked on the heavy clunk of a silver dollar, rattling around in a pocket or wallet. But younger collectors will have memories of the first loonie they were given to spend.

If I was only beginning a collection, either toonies or loonies would be my first choice as well, both NCLT and circulation. I think it's great that you follow a chosen theme. The crossover between loonies and silver dollars makes practical sense to me as well. The year 2017 and all the releases of each has certainly been an emptying pocket experience!
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 Posted 08/01/2017  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The second of the RCM's 2017-dated 36mm silver dollars to be released was the non-enhanced version of the Special Edition Our Home and Native Land coin; it was part of the RCM's January 2017 release.

The coin featured the same design as the SD included in the Special Edition Proof Set that was launched in September 2016, but without the selective gold plating on the "150" or rim.

I placed my order on January 6th and received the coin on January 17th - a much faster delivery experience than for my Proof Set (less than two weeks vs. three months!).

While I still think the design is a bit flat, I do prefer it over the allegorical Confederation design that followed.


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 Posted 08/01/2017  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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But my google search for the name amazed me, the huge number of Canadian private mints back in that period of time. Yes, you're sure right - private mints were the creative guys and the consumer benefited by competition and option to choose.

The 1960s and 1970s were a modern day high-water mark for the popularity of medals, silver ingots and related exonumia. I have a variety of pieces from that time frame in my collection and enjoy them very much.




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 Posted 08/02/2017  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looking at the first six 2017 silver dollars, I just noticed RCM indicates on their website that five are already sold out. Only the gold-plated allegorical figure in the silver proof set is still available. I'd expect the Colville anniversary set (goose dollar) will fly off the shelves very quickly as well.

Given the mintages are not considered "low" nor are the designs particularly innovative, my guess is there's still a solid core of traditional collectors out there that who haven't got caught up in RCM's more glitzy and trinkety offerings.

I wonder if the strong sales of 2017 silver dollars took RCM by surprise and if so, what will we see in the future? How many more yet in 2017, given RCM's tenancy toward "if it's a good thing, then more...and more".
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 Posted 08/02/2017  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jackalope to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are starting to ship the Enameled Special Edition Proof Dollar - Our Home and Native Land, just received shipping notice.
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 Posted 08/02/2017  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've received notice of shipping for the enameled silver dollar and the Centennial Commemorative proof set.

I'm looking forward to receiving both.


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The 150th Anniversary of Canadian Confederation silver dollar with the allegorical Canada as its central design element was next to be released. It was available individually as a standard, unadorned proof coin (#3) and as a proof with selective gold plating within a fine silver proof set (#4).

The Proof Set included silver versions of the standard pre-2017 circulation designs; the set is the only way (so far) to get the traditional designs in fine silver.

IMO, the SD's design is almost excellent. I am a fan of the use of allegorical figures on coins - they can make for great symbolism. Had the fur cape that hangs from Canada's shoulders been omitted from the design, I would rate the design as "Excellent" with many aspects of Canada and her history being represented. However, to my eyes, the cape appears to give Canada a second pair of arms - something I find very distracting. As such, I only can only give the overall design a grade of "Good to Very Good."

I ordered one of each at the same time, March 3, 2017 and received the individual coin and set on March 14th. Another prompt delivery by the RCM!


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Still waiting for this one to be minted...

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