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Excellent, daltonista and dar - beautiful specimens!
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"General Good Conduct" must have been passing rare to warrant such a big medal!
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Lovely examples!  |
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From Bedworth in Warwickshire, an 1811 silver shilling token issued by the Bedworth Mill Why would the mill issue these tokens instead of paying their employees with official circulating coins? |
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NumisEd asked: Why would the mill issue these tokens instead of paying their employees with official circulating coins?
Basically what it came down to is the Crown not producing enough "small change" to support the country's commerce, leaving it to counties, municipalities, employers, tradesmen, and banks (and counterfeiters!) to meet the demand. Various misadventures in foreign and fiscal affairs combined with the government's neglect of the needs of the country's "working classes" resulting once again in the need for emergency or "necessity" coinage, just as Conders had become a chief medium of exchange only three decades earlier.
In 1904, Davis wrote in "The nineteenth century token coinage of Great Britain, Ireland, the Channel Islands, and the Isle of Man" :
And in 1922, in his catalogue "The silver token-coinage mainly issued between 1811 and 1812," Dalton summarized: 
"If everything seems to be under control, you're just not going fast enough."
--- Mario Andretti
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06/20/2023 12:14 pm
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Thank you for the excellent summary, daltonista.
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For more depth, Ruding's History of the Coinage of Britain has never been equalled. In general terms, one may say that, between the valuation of the silver coins (earlier, in relation to gold, and later, in relation to Bank of England notes), and certain unwise measures taken with regard to the management of the Mint (in particular, the abolition of seigniorage), one would incur a loss by bringing in silver to be coined, and so people didn't. Silver bullion didn't flow into the country in the course of trade, and what did arrive was used mostly to make tableware and such. Domestic production was small.
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Worcester Salt disappointment.... I have several Worcester Salt tokens, but had never seen this one. A search on tokencatalog did not show anything similar. Unfortunately, it's a watch fob on which the "fob" part is broken off.    Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Bummer.  |
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NumisEd asked Thanks for the explanation, daltonista! |
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Visiting a friend this weekend and she is showing me things found in her yard and under her 120 year old house. "Boy Scout" themed shoe token from 1910. (Common pre-Nazi use of a swastika). Not sure if anyone is familiar with this token, or not. Seems in really good condition.  |
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Nice, mestephil! I wasn't familiar with that one. But yes, swastikas were quite common on good luck tokens before that symbol was abused.
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Here's a Worcester Salt token from the 1920s with a reverse virtually identical to yours, mestephil!   Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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06/24/2023 10:50 pm
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Hondo Boguss, that's a pretty cool token. Where did you buy it? Errers and Varietys.
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Some online auction - possibly ebay. They are not especially rare. Search there and you will find many for sale. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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