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One Side Blank Canadian Error Coin , Other Side Is The Queen

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 Posted 12/14/2018  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with everyone else: PMD.
You can plainly see the file/grind marks on the 'blank' side.
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 Posted 12/14/2018  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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No there is no rim on the flat blank side. There wouldn't be a rim if it had struck two blank planchets at the same time you would not see an edge.

Yes there would be a rim, you have to understand the minting process.
The rim is put on the blank planchet by the upsetting machine before the coin is struck.
And as stated earlier, if two planchets did get struck at the same time,you would have an entirely different looking coin.
So for the second time, your coin is PMD, not an error.
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 Posted 12/14/2018  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wolf705247 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you weighed every planchet that was turned into a coin during 1979 , 1980 , and 1981 you would not get 3.24, 2.8 and 2.8 every single time. There is going to be some fluctuations and I believe 0.01 is an appropriate fluctuation weather it be 2.9 or 2.7. I am getting this coin certified I will post the results for those who are curious. Thanks for all your input, very much appreciated.
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 Posted 12/15/2018  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TerryT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
YOU WILL BE WASTING YOUR MONEY !!

You can see the obvious scratch marks, then someone scratched the "rectangle" with something else.

Planchets are blank and smooth before striking (I have some), not all marked up, and they have a rim, which would hit against the other planchet's rim and squish towards the middle, not disappear.
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 Posted 12/15/2018  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know why some people waste our time on here.
No matter how many people more knowledgeable tell them the
right answer, they still insist that they are right.
If the OP wants to waste his money getting it graded, then
I say go ahead it's not my loss.
I'm sure this will be the last we hear of this coin.
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12/15/2018 08:32 am
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 Posted 12/15/2018  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like those file marks aren't an obvious clue! The TPGs should put out a "greatest hits" of goofy coin submissions!
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 Posted 12/16/2018  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PMD no more no less.
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I am getting this coin certified I will post the results for those who are curious.


There is only one certifier in Canada who handles errors, and that is CCCS. It will cost you about $20 for a single coin submission (plus shipping).

NGC and PCGS in the US do certify errors, and with the CAN-US currency exchange, and shipping costs, it will cost you $75 (approximately) for a single coin submission.

Or, you could listen to the experts here, me being one of them (I collect Canadian small cent errors):

- your coin was not struck on a split planchet
http://goccf.com/t/330437

- your coin was not struck through another coin (note the rim on the blank side)
http://goccf.com/t/271556

You need to learn about the minting process, before you can make such bold assumptions. Even blank planchets, have raised rims.
http://goccf.com/t/194021

You have a full rim on one side, and no rim on the other, therefore it was NOT struck on a Type 1 blank.

You have a normal coin whereby someone filed or ground down the reverse. I could make that same "error" in about 10 minutes in my garage. It is junk, it is worth nothing more than a conversation piece...

Transition strikes do occur, but are uncommon:
http://goccf.com/t/285686

Lastly, to CCF - there are a ton of threads here on errors, so take advantage of the CCF search engine and open your mind - when it comes to errors, we are all always learning...
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I believe 0.01 is an appropriate fluctuation weather it be 2.9 or 2.7.


It is not, the range of tolerance is much more than 0.1 grams. Go ahead and open a mint roll of uncirculated coins from any year and weigh them... the results might surprise you...
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 Posted 12/28/2020  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add One Sided Queen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi There,
I think I found the exact same penny. Did you ever figure out what happened to yours? We were playing poker with some old pennys when I found this one.
Cheers,
Tim

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 Posted 12/28/2020  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Same answer for your coin: it's been ground down.

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 Posted 12/28/2020  08:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the CCF

Agree with johnnysprawl

Same type of coin, same answer. It has been ground down.
No value over one cent.
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12/28/2020 08:38 am
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 Posted 12/28/2020  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bond632 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Considering the original poster has not posted the slabbed coin as proof of their convictions, (it has been 2 years since the original post) that the experts here are correct with their assumptions about it being filed or ground down.
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 Posted 12/28/2020  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grinding scratches left behind.
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