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Ouch! You got coin communitied! This happens too often on this site. Just sayin.
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The seller of the coin in question sent me a very nice email back and was very cordial. He has removed the item from ebay because he did not know that PCGS had incorrectly certified it as a different variety. I think that the seller was extremely nice when he explained the circumstances that he had to deal with over the weekend. He answered my email back immediately telling me that the item had been removed ... after I explained how PCGS was in error. And, by the way, you don't need to look at die cracks or the "5" to tell a DP#4 ... just look at the 9, guys. After exchanging emails with the seller, I would do business with him in a heartbeat. |
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jdmern, I sorry for getting under your skin, I apologize for the amount of days I used 2-3 days ago rather than 4-5 days ago.
But the reason for the post was not to bash you or try to hurt your sales, I don't even know you and don't think I was rude to you at all.
It was to inform others that don't know the 59 varieties about the coin not being a DP9 #4 and the markers I mentioned are markers for this coin like the 5 and leaf 7 die crack check it out on the Haxby site for yourself.
The trend led to PCGS and how they have made other mistakes with the same coin I posted one that was called a DP9 #1 as well as other varieties if you read the whole post.
Have a good evening all
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Who ever made the phone call seems like not a very nice person. I do wish someone would call PCGS with that toungue.
I trust the opinions on this site for grades and varieties over PCGS ICCS or NGC any day. However, don't like the way individuals are treated sometimes. Should be zero tolerance for half truths and lies when it comes to another person's livlihood.
If a reputable seller is so bad because PCGS didn't do their job, what does that make you if you can't even get your basic facts straight about something that happened 2 days ago.
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03/26/2019 02:17 am
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It seems this post got out of hand and the post changed from a informational post about a coin being sold with the wrong identification on the slab to villain (being me) trying to ruin someone's sales and business how wrong you people are.
My biggest fault was the amount of days I used that I contacted said seller and I made a point of saying I was sorry for it I should have said a few days ago I contacted them, my mistake.
If people want to bash me that's fine but the post was not to label the seller with a bad name but to inform others that it was not a 1859 DP9 #4 and to inform him how to tell a #4 with a couple of markers I use for this coin the 5 and leaf 7 die crack his coin had the wrong 5 and the wrong die crack at leaf 7.
If people choose not to believe what I told him then maybe they should check out the Haxby site and see for yourself.
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Jim ... I told the owner the same thing about your intention that was directed at PCGS and not him. I also told him that I was very familiar with you and your expertise and that you would NOT dis another person. If a person reads the whole thread, there is no blame that should be directed at you, but that the "over the weekend" delay was misconstrued.
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Then, at around 2 pm, we start getting calls to our office from a Canadian phone number, with some lunatic calling me every name in the book and telling me I sell fake varieties and I was trying to scam his friend on a $2000 coin. This continued to the point we had to unplug the phone this afternoon. Jim, any idea whom this "friend" of yours is? You might want to have a word with them....  . Frankly, I'd be irate if anyone I knew called a business on my behalf, without my knowledge, just to swear and lecture at them... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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No your biggest fault was your attitude, and your inability to admit so without strings attached. No one is trying to bash you, I'm just kind of astonished at your inability to say straight up, that was wrong or I'm sorry without excuses and without making this about you. You've edited your original statements. But this is your attitude, that the seller and his people don't know crap.  |
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For what it's worth, calls came from Quebec... Sounded like he was completely off his rocker. I understand completely if someone has an issue with PCGS making a mistake. Believe me, I'm not thrilled I now have a piece I have to deal with the rigmarole of getting back into a correct holder and trying to get wrangle my way through the PCGS guarantee process. However, the part I take umbrage with is starting a post on a forum and starting it with a falsehood which seems to serve no other purpose except for making me look bad. Quote:His return answer to me was that varieties are not his area of collecting and that he goes by the grading company, but said he would look into it a little bit. Also said he had expert friends that are variety specialist and he will show them. This was 3-4 days ago and the coin is still up either he never showed his specialty friends or they don't know there crap this is not a #4 e-bay 401733028348PS: The only reason I bring this up is that it has a price tag of $2,000.00 hate to see someone get ripped Believe it or not, running a coin business is a lot more difficult than people realize, and the expectation that I drop everything on a weekend to go back to the office and examine a PCGS graded piece for accuracy on a variety attribution is quite an unreasonable one. I am perfectly accepting of criticism when we are wrong, and certainly, I am sure I have made mistakes when listing the amount of pieces we offer. However, I felt the post making it seem like I did not know my stuff or that I was just ignoring a possible issue was quite unfair. I'm more than over it, as long as I don't have to get any more insane calls. I understand people on this forum want what's best for the hobby. I'm on the same side as you! |
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Believe me, I'm not thrilled I now have a piece I have to deal with the rigmarole of getting back into a correct holder and trying to get wrangle my way through the PCGS guarantee process. You are lucky in many respects. If it was in an Canadian third party holder you might get it reholdered for free, but if you bought it in the Canadian TPG holder paying DP#4 money, you'd be left holding the bag... For the benefit of the collectors north of the border, please let us know how this turns out with PCGS. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Thanks for your support Bill
jdmern for your understanding that I wasn't trying to hurt your business but only to inform you and others that it was not the coin labeled #4. With my construction background as an Ironworker sometimes my wording is a little on the rough side but to the point and gets me in trouble, like mentioned I'm sorry for the grief you went through.
Roger I have no idea who the mysterious caller is as I never talked to anyone about this coin except here in this post and also never instructed anyone to make any calls to anyone.
Alan like mentioned above I'm a little rough around the edges when it comes to words but who ever graded and labeled this variety doesn't know much about the 1859 DP9's so I'm sorry I offended everyone that thought the coin was a #4 by saying what I said about there knowledge
But I am happy its out in the open and taken off e-bay so no one pays a huge price for a wrongly identified coin that is worth less than the #4, and I'm not blaming jdmern for posting said coin
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Thats fair and can respect that a lot papeldog. Good man!
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FYI - I edited the title to reflect what this thread is really about...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you Roger,
Your a way better speller and putting words together than I.
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Having experienced quite a bit of CCF "nuttiness" here lately, from "respectable" members who really surprised me with their vicious attacks, I will step in here to say that I have bought expensive coins from jdmern (Boardwalk Numismatics) and have been 100% satisfied with his customer service and product. He has never misrepresented any coin in my experience. This is one of the finest sellers on ebay and a shining example for other US sellers of Canadian coins, to follow. I will ALWAYS give Boardwalk Numismatics more business. In terms of variety attribution, this is a field where TPGs (PCGS, NGC, ICCS) constantly get attributions mixed up. You're going to hold a US seller to a standard that even "Canadian Experts" at ICCS can't maintain? That's nonsense. Boardwalk Numismatics has gorgeous coin pictures, flawless service, and as far as I'm concerned, is one of the best sellers in the business, period. I hope that those of you, who have insulted him and have wasted his time, are ashamed of your actions, and apologize immediately.  Edited by canadian-varieties
03/29/2019 02:15 am
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