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 Posted 09/04/2008  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like I said our government doesn't care whether a coin is used or not. They also don't care what they are made of or how much it cost to produce them. Our Mint is now in the process of doing what was done with stamps. Making so many different types that people will eventually stop collecting them or at least the mojority of people. Have you looked in a coin book lately to see the massive amount of commemoratives they are producing. Many, many with a mintage of less than one million. Imagine how much it cost to have them designed, produced, packaged, distributed. And the dies required is now layed to rest and no one cares about that cost.
The government is known to spend hundreds of dollars for a hammer. They ride in expensive cars that are usually purchased with our taxes. Almost all government employees have more benifits during and after work that anyone reading this as a general rule.
This is why I can not see how people worry about the production of a CENT. I wonder if anyone really thinks if they stopped making them there would now be more money for schools, roads, health plans, etc.
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 Posted 09/04/2008  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This is why I can not see how people worry about the production of a CENT. I wonder if anyone really thinks if they stopped making them there would now be more money for schools, roads, health plans, etc.


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If there were "savings", we citizens would certainly never see it materialized in the form of schools, roads, etc. etc. !!......Very true Carl !....
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 Posted 09/04/2008  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FreezerBurn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This is why I can not see how people worry about the production of a CENT.


You'd be suprised at what people worry about. Ameros, Godless dollars, security strips in currency etc. The list is endless. The economics of producing a Cent are secondary to the the preception perception of government interference and the loss of another "FREEDOM" many would see if the penny went away. The concept of "rounding" isn't something the unwashed masses are familiar with and it only takes a few posts on the net for the conspiracy nuts to get something started. "Business would never round down; only up! We will be cheated!" would be the cry of the uninformed nitwits who read it on the web or heard it from a friend. If people can't find anything to scare themselves with they'll invent something.
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 Posted 09/04/2008  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would like to see the cent go just so I didnt have to deal with everything being priced $x.99
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...and it only takes a few posts on the net for the conspiracy nuts to get something started.
I wish they would stop making the cent just so I can get inundated with e-mails announcing the end of the world!
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 Posted 09/04/2008  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I would like to see the cent go just so I didnt have to deal with everything being priced $x.99
Removing the cent wont stop that, especially since the cent would still be valid for electronic transactions. With sales tax, something that cost $1.00 would be $1.06 where I live, still requiring a cent for exact change, but I am sure most places would gladly take $1.05 and call it good.
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 Posted 09/04/2008  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I wish they would stop making the cent just so I can get inundated with e-mails announcing the end of the world!


It's "political season"..........I ALREADY DO !!

And I'd be happy to send 35 to 40 a week your way,().. but your "PM Message" is turned off !!.......can't "PM" Jbuck !!
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And I'd be happy to send 35 to 40 a week your way,().. but your "PM Message" is turned off !.......can't "PM" Jbuck !
I thought I turned that on?

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 Posted 09/08/2008  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I would like to see the cent go just so I didnt have to deal with everything being priced $x.99


Your on the wrong track with the cent going away thing. The way to fix that $x.99 item pricing is to start making all our money in those denominations. Instead of a dollar, it now becomes a $0.99 bill or coin. Instead of a $2 bill, it now becomes a $1.99 bill. A fin, $5 bill, becomes both a $4.99 and/or $5.99 bill. All coins are also changed to $0.009 instead of a cent.
For those special sales, you also have the $1.98 bill, etc.
This would eventually make all stores mad and they would start using even amounts in the future such as $1 for something.
One big problem is in banks. Say if you get 0.003% interest every quarter. Without a cent they would just round all your interest down. If your a normal person you could loose a few dollars a year that way.
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 Posted 09/09/2008  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jays-Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Elimination of the cent coin would not eliminate the use of cents in transactions. All electronic transactions and checks could be written as usual. Only cash transactions would be affected, and even then only once per transaction. When I go the the grocery store, I usually buy multiple items. If these items are $1.99, $2.99, $1.49, and $4.97 then the bill would be $11.44. It might round up to $11.45 if I'm using cash, but that is a single act of rounding. You would not round the price of each individual item before getting the total! But this is all moot for me because I use a credit card as often as possible to get that 3% cash back reward (I would have gotten 34c back on this one!).
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 Posted 09/09/2008  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If these items are $1.99, $2.99, $1.49, and $4.97 then the bill would be $11.44. It might round up to $11.45 if I'm using cash, but that is a single act of rounding. You would not round the price of each individual item before getting the total! But this is all moot for me because I use a credit card as often as possible to get that 3% cash back reward (I would have gotten 34c back on this one!).


I probably was not clear in my idea of pricing. What I was referring to was to make currency and/or coins with a massive variety of values. In your instance above, you would pay for it with a $11.44 bill. If your bill came out to be $14.74, you would pay for it with a $14.74 bill. See how easy that is. No change required, ever.
Of course there is the very slight problem of making and keeping thousands of different denomination type bills. My further solution would be a magnetic or something type strip in all bills that would change into whatever you needed. This denomination would then be deducted from the micro chip emplanted in your nose or ear. If your purchase exceeded the amount allowed by this chip, you would get electricuted by that chip thus eliminating the necessity of over drafts. Also, the following funeral arragements could also be deducted from that chip.
See how easy things could be.
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 Posted 09/09/2008  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OH NO. Someone just told me my idea of variable currency is already in use. However, instead of currency they are called CREDIT CARDS.
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 Posted 09/09/2008  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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One big problem is in banks. Say if you get 0.003% interest every quarter. Without a cent they would just round all your interest down. If your a normal person you could loose a few dollars a year that way.

Incorrect. Banks and electronic transactions (and even checks for that matter) would still be to the nearest CENT. It is only for cash purchases where rounding would take effect.

For those of you who think you will lose a lot of money to businesses pricing things at $0.99 and collecting a dollar, here's some examples (assuming you live in Delaware and pay no sales tax):

1 item at $0.99 = you pay $1.00, store gets the extra cent
2 items at $0.99 = $1.98, you pay $2, store gets the extra 2 cents
3 items at $0.99 = $2.97, you pay $2.95, YOU get the extra 2 cents
4 items at $0.99 = $3.96, you pay $3.95, YOU get the extra cent

So you can see, that depending on the number of items you purchase, the rounding goes both directions. When you buy a cartload of groceries, you will always be within 2 cents, one direction or the other, of your total, and only round if you pay cash. For electronic transactions it will be exact, and you will not lose a cent, and the earth will still rotate on its axis.....

For those of you who have difficulty "thinking outside the box", it is the total amount at the end of the transaction (including any taxes that are applicable) that gets rounded, not each individual item. I wish I could find them now, but studies have been done to show that it isn't a ploy to screw the little guy. The problem is, people are resistant to change. Especially Americans. I know, I used to be one of them, until I encountered it firsthand. Now I can't figure out why it hasn't been fixed already.
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09/09/2008 4:28 pm
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