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 Posted 09/02/2008  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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...when your holdings are scattered over the gamit of prices its not so bad

That's a good strategy, because you're thinking over the long term.
I amassed silver for a while...until the Hunt silver bubble, and sold everything at $40/oz. in 1980. I simply lucked out by getting out in time.
I'm just very averse to downside risk from speculative runs, especially now how the economy is teetery. Admittedly it's an extreme view--partially due to the fact my startup cratered when the tech-boom collapsed. I was lucky to escape with my hide intact, but I'll never forget because I saw so much dot-bomb carnage.
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Good point, m9.
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 Posted 09/02/2008  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clembo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't "invested" in silver in years. Thought about it a while back to make a few bucks. Glad I didn't since it plummeted.

What I do buy in silver these days has dates on it. As in real U.S. coinage. Not silver eagles, not rounds or bars.

I don't run a shop but do work at one. Gotta catch the boss in the right mood and when I do I pick up silver coins. Mainly quarters as of late.

I picked up 7 quarters last week for $35. He paid a bit over junk for them but I got coins with better than $5 numismatic value for the price and well under bid for the most part.
He made money (he likes this) and I got a good numsimatic deal.

3 Barbers. 95-O, 97-O and 15-D (actually needed that one and the 95-O). Problem free G4 or better coins.
1927-D and 28 Standing Liberties. D in G4 and 28 pushing VF.
AU 1934 Washington and XF+ 35.

Now I know I paid 20x face. I think he paid 12x face but I can move these at well over $35 for the lot no matter how low silver goes.

Of course not everyone works in or runs a shop but I look at bullion vs. real coins and I'm heading toward real coins.

If you're going to drop a thousand bucks get real coins. Most dealers buy this in bulk and it goes into buckets, etc. The more you buy the better the price.

No, you can't sort through them but you may just get a few better ones cheap and if silver goes up it's much easier to recoup or profit either locally or on sites like ebay.

Just my Two Cents worth.

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 Posted 09/02/2008  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PennehChaos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silly me... I was thinking Funk & Wagnalls, Merriam-Webster, etc. But even the first link says:


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In finance, an investment is a monetary asset purchased with the idea that the asset will provide income in the future or appreciate and be sold at a higher price.


Much like "pornography is someone else's erotica that you don't like", it seems that "speculation is someone else's investment that you think is too risky"... The only difference between buying a stock and buying a lottery ticket is that with the lottery, you get to watch somebody pull the numbers out of the spinny thing on TV, so you know they're telling he truth.
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 Posted 09/02/2008  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Investing usually involves the creation of wealth whereas speculating is often a zero-sum game wealth is not created.

I do think there's a point here, and without quantifying in detail, it might simply be illustrated as two distinct concepts (from an 1875 Currier & Ives illustration)
Guess which side I call "speculation"?

Silver/Gold-Is-Moving-Today

But I won't beat this subject into the ground further...good luck to all.

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Kurt......
Funny and very multi layered in it's descriptiveness with the historical aspect to your "Currier & Ives" depiction.......VERY COOL TOO !....

The only "bubble" or "balloon" I disagree with is the "gambling" one !.........

Anybody for Texas Hold Em' ?.......It's a great way to "invest" in your future my friends !......

SHUFFLE UP AND DEAL !
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 Posted 09/03/2008  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sean1011.....


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That's deep Eaglefoot

That's exactly how I feel as well.

And as I read on here before, the only way your really going to make alot of money is if you invest alot of money in bulk. I simply cannot do that.


Just goes to say that you collect coins for fun, not for "investment". I've never sold a coin in my life.......and hope I never have to !!
As for "buying in bulk"......yeah......but look at it this way too....
I've " inherited" a lot of coins......over the years
I've "purchased" a lot of coins ......over the years
And if I "keep buying" for 40 more years.......THAT'LL BE A PRETTY GOOD "BULK" TO HAVE !!.....(for a future family member to "add on" to)
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What I do buy in silver these days has dates on it. As in real U.S. coinage. Not silver eagles, not rounds or bars.
Good call!

Kurt, I still love that illustration!
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 Posted 09/05/2008  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add myprecious to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not only is buying securities in a stock market a gamble, but simply having cash is a gamble these days!

Try not to knock on those of us who buy coins primarily for their PRECIOUSness... it's a good way to get folks interested in the neumismatic aspect :D That's what landed me chatting on a coin board, so it can't be all bad.

Bullion is a commodity, a currency. Coins tell tales. Both have value, and can be a lot of fun. Krugerrands, for example, are both gorgeous as coins and appealing as a bullion investment. My purchases are based on this combination. You won't find any Zink/Nickel, or even Copper, coins in my collection, but you will find some interesting neumismatic goals. Right now I'm just hoarding 1964 Kennedys, but I have no current desire to build the set.

carl's posts about the Mercury sets are rather appealing. I could see myself getting into a bullion-based set (where coins are silver or gold) but the "key dates" turn me off a bit...

Edit: Well, after reading more threads about the investment side of coins, perhaps my neumismatic aspect is rather un-interesting to a good number of folks here. Amateur alert... hah.
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Try not to knock on those of us who buy coins primarily for their PRECIOUSness... it's a good way to get folks interested in the neumismatic aspect.
I am not disappointed with anyone that invests in coins, I just want people to know I choose to collect regardless of a coin's (potential) value. Everyone accumulates coins for their own reasons; IMHO, there is no wrong reason to do it, only personal preference.

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Bullion is a commodity, a currency. Coins tell tales.
I like that!
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Edit: Well, after reading more threads about the investment side of coins, perhaps my neumismatic aspect is rather un-interesting to a good number of folks here. Amateur alert... hah.
One thing you will learn about this place is that no one is ever accused of being uninteresting. Everyone has a perspective and we all love to hear about it!
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I keep my coin collecting completely seperated from the bullion which I buy .

My coins are history and beauty reflected in design ,date and mint of production .

My bullion has no such attraction to me , it is bought for the simple reason I like to dabble in the market of bullion metals and as such it can be sold with no sense of loss and no rational or irrational internalised mental debate .
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I invest in precious metal funds, which have done well for the long term investor, some short term investors may not see it as I do. Being an electrical contractor, I buy 10's of thousands dollars worth of copper each year. From what I can tell, it will never go to where its was 10 years ago and only has one way to go which is up. Some contractors are switching over to aluminum, which may be the way we will all go soon. IMHO metals will always go up as more countries are modernizing and upgrading their infrastructure.
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Hmm, should I start hoarding my cat5? heh.
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A lot of the data guys turn in the demoed cable for scrap and make some decent money doing it.
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