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 Posted 03/15/2006  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CiScO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by rggoodie

I have checke out 5 shops and not one person could get the super micro setting to work.
as I am not a professional photographer- how hard is this camera to operate?

If the dealers can not demonstrate it, I am afraid to purchase one for myself.



My advise amigo--READ the manual--HAHAHAHA
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 Posted 03/21/2006  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One each Canon S2 IS ordered from Beach Camera on Sunday, received notice that it was shipped today (Tues). Should be here Saturday or Monday. Cost $343.xx including Priority Mail shipping. When it arrives, I'll spend a few hours reading the manual and playing with it. I did not order a larger memory card; that'll come later after I learn the capabilities and limitations of the camera. I also got lucky: I learned my brother-in-law has an S1 IS, the predecessor for the S2, so I tapped him for strengths and weaknesses of his camera before I ordered mine. When I've mastered the S2, expect some coin pics to come this way.

Thanks to all for the advice and info. This has been a very educational thread.

Fred

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 Posted 03/21/2006  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fred Should be receiving a comission from Cannon
I ordered mine and it will be here either Friday or Monday.

I have spend hours at the camera stores but I still can find no one who understands the super macro setting - once they get it into super macro mode they lose focus and zoom ability.

If they use zoom then they lose macro ability.

how about it Fred
Share with us the secrets of the settings for getting a good closeup-
Yes I have already read the manual- but it was no help to a dummy like me.
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Morgan Fred's Avatar
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 Posted 03/22/2006  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Richard, let me play with the camera after it arrives. There's gotta be a solution. The images posted by SuperDave were outstanding; maybe he'll share his knowledge of use of the S2 IS for close-ups.

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 Posted 03/22/2006  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
If they use zoom then they lose macro ability.


Hmmm... Mine has both.

Regular macro to 4 inches.
Super macro to 3 centimeters
10x optical zoom
4x digital zoom

Now if you are talking about using both zoom and macro at the same time, that's a different story. I haven't seen a camera yet that will do that. It kind of defeats the purpose. When you turn the macro on, the zoom is disabled because you're getting right up on the subject anyway.
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 Posted 03/24/2006  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i use a nikon coolpix 4300 digital 4 megapixels it works well for any photos but I have liked the photos taken of coins alot. of course I am as ROOKIE as you get when it comes to the photos.
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 Posted 03/24/2006  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add habiru001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Speaking of Cameras- I didn't see any mention of SONY 10X MVX FD73- I have used my camera for at least 10 years- Cost 600.00+ when I bought it- I think they are now in the 400.00 range. For those of you like me who do not know much about the technical side, I will say this camera does excellent work for me- but the key to good coin photos is (LIGHTING) The person with the clamp on light fixture has the right idea- That is what I do- have a clamp on light over my desk that I can move if need be- uumm- My camera always seems to be at its best when I photo the Buffalo Nickel- Humm- Maybe that is because I am partial to that coin. (It was precious to me-because there was a real herd of Buffalo near where I grew up. habiru001
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 Posted 03/24/2006  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Morgan Fred

Richard, let me play with the camera after it arrives. There's gotta be a solution. The images posted by SuperDave were outstanding; maybe he'll share his knowledge of use of the S2 IS for close-ups.

Fred



Remember, I'm a guy who's taking pictures on a ceramic stovetop.

Here's how I generally do it:

The camera is set to SuperMacro under full Manual operation ("M" on the dial), and highest-quality images. The camera is about 4 inches from the coin, which makes the final size of a Morgan pic about 1300 pixels wide. Scaled down to the 500 pixels I post pics at improves the perceived quality of the shot. I set the Aperture to 5.0 as a compromise between depth of field and faster shutter speeds. The higher (numerically) the aperture, the better depth of field - down around 3.0, you have to have the coin exactly perpendicular to the camera or it'll have areas out of focus. The faster the shutter speed, the less likely movement blurring will be a problem. Even with image stabilization, camera movement in a macro shot is problematic. I set my exposure to about 0.6 seconds. Then I play around with the position of my lights until pleased with what I see in the eyepiece (I never use the LCD, because it eats batteries quickly - you'll understand in a minute).

That's where I take the first shot. I then take the aperture down and up from 3.2 to 8.0, a few steps at a time, and the exposure up and down between 1/100 and 1.5 seconds, a couple steps at a time (the aperture has a bearing on exposure - F3.2 wants 1/60 when F5.0 wants 0.6 seconds, as a rough approximation), and take more pics, say 4 at each aperture setting. I play with the position of the lighting while I'm at it.

Every picture you've seen me post here is about one of fifteen or twenty I've taken of that subject, at various settings. Furthermore, Morgans need different settings obverse and reverse - I need more direct and brighter light on the reverse, and the obverse tends to like less-direct light. Worse, BU coins require different settings than circulated coins. It gets complicated, and the way my mind works, I'm better off taking a bazillion shots than trying to work out a system

It took almost fifty archived shots of the 1921P VAM41 posted elsewhere on this site before I got one I liked for contrast and focus. The coin below, a near-DMPL 1879S (my avatar coin), is giving me fits. I have to figure it out soon, because it goes to ebay on Sunday, but I'm not even close to satisfied. What I'm posting here is the best of twenty tries, and I still can't get stuff to quit reflecting in it so I can just have a simple face shot.

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Now, if I were using the camera's LCD on a day I needed to image 15 coins (as I do for this week's round of auctions), I'd go through four sets of batteries. As it is, I'm still on the set of non-rechargeables that came with the Canon. I think once I come up with more even lighting, it'll be easier, but it'll never be easy because I'm picky.

Oh, yeah, one more thing - figure 1.5Mb per shot at these settings. A big memory card is recommended.
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 Posted 03/24/2006  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just got my S2Is
Great camera
I read the manual (that's a first)

then I called the suport group at Canon
Unlike other support groups, they were great.
They even took a coin out of their pocket and tried what I was trying at the same time to walk me through the super macro setting and light exposure settings..
Great camera, great service
Great pictures.
Thank you for your recommendation.
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 Posted 03/24/2006  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And I also received my S2 IS in the mail today. I've been playing with it off and on since late this morning. This is gonna take awhile: it has all sorts of bells and whistles, buttons, menus, functions, and other stuff. The manuals weigh as much as the camera. If I were just taking "scenery" pictures, I'd be clicking away, but I'm working on the specialized settings, e.g., jpeg size, compression. It's even got a power button which has two settings in addition to On and Off. What a camera!
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 Posted 05/21/2006  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bumped for info !!

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 Posted 05/21/2006  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mooseknuckle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I use a powershot SD200, and took these pics... The coins were in plexiglass cases, but still came out rather well:

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 Posted 05/21/2006  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
here ia m still trying to figure mine out
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 Posted 05/21/2006  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChristinaM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
scoutjim..don't feel bad, so am I...I think a college degree is required to operate some of these things..lol
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 Posted 05/22/2006  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Learning all about what each camera can and cannot do is only half the problem....then there is lighting, composition of the object etc to be mastered as well before you can take that perfect shot...[:p]
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