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Weird how Massachusetts used to extend from Maine to Wisconsin and Connecticut extended out to Illinois...  Also interesting how the powerful Spanish, French and British completely surrounded our country and we were able to drive them all out. I guess they spent all of their fortune fighting each other in European wars and adventures. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
03/21/2023 12:27 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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@paralyse - thank you for the context. I certainly walked into the discussion not knowing any of this. I'm ok with balancing tradition as we evolve in our understanding of how we all got here.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Of course. It's helpful to understand why, in context, people still refer to things using terminology that is demonstrably inaccurate or incorrect -- but tradition is a stubborn mule to break.
This country has never had a currency or coin known as a "penny" since 1793, and yet every day you will hear and see countless people using the term "penny" to refer to a one-cent coin. It is not correct, but it is so engrained in our collective consciousness that attempting to correct others regarding this fact often comes across as pedantic or arrogant even when you have the truth on your side.
To use another example, every day in our hobby we can hear, and see, discussion about "Seated Liberty" coinage (instead of "Liberty Seated", the preferred terminology.)
Of course, when it comes to our country, precisely how to label the various eras between the 1600s up to 1788 or 1793 is in and of itself a contentious matter informed by historical traditions that may or may not be a fair reflection of "the way things were" at the time. As a nation, citizens and historians alike by and large cannot even agree on when we first became "The United States of America!"
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11898 Posts |
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I was at 63BN, PCGS says 62BN
Can't really offer thoughts, too busy drooling all over the keyboard...
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Bam...i think this is one of only non-government issued coin I nailed the grade  |
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