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 Posted 01/24/2011  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xphobe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DVCollector: He sealed the uranium medal in a little glass capsule, under nitrogen, I think. He does that with all the highly reactive elements such as the alkaline earths.

And he custom-made me a very nice little round lead case to keep it in, but that's more for show because the alphas can't penetrate the glass capsule. I asked him if radon build-up would rupture the capsule, but he said he didn't think that would ever be a problem due to the low level of radioactivity.
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xphobe: Have you been to the Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles? There's a large periodic table with boxes containing samples for most elements.

I've been there twice (and love staring at it), so reading the above posts makes me want to run to the doctor!
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He sealed the uranium medal in a little glass capsule, under nitrogen, I think.
He obviously thought thought through all the possible issues.
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Neat stuff
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Have you been to the Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles? There's a large periodic table with boxes containing samples for most elements.

I've been there twice (and love staring at it), so reading the above posts makes me want to run to the doctor!


Yes I have, back when I was a kid! It was one of the things that got me interested in the elements. I also remember an oscilloscope you could talk into, a giant Foucault pendulum, and a big uranium brick shielded in plastic, that you could (try) to pick up.

The media overplays the health risks of elements. I can remember playing with the mercury from a thermometer when I was young, rolling it around in my hand and coating pennies with it. Nowadays if that little blob fell on the floor in a classroom the health department would declare an environmental disaster, evacuate the school, and send in a decon team in hazmat suits.

IMO, one of the big problems with science education today is we've taken all the risk out of science, and thereby, all the fun. We wouldn't want our precious little snowflakes to do anything that might injure them now, would we? So instead of real stinks and bangs, we make them do "virtual" experiments on their computer, and it's no different from Warcraft or Sim City. Whoopee.

And we glorify ignorance of science and math! Think about it: we often hear "I'm terrible at math" or "That science stuff is way beyond me!" Now, how often do you hear someone proudly say "Oh I don't know what that says - I'm illiterate!"

No wonder kids don't think science is cool anymore.

OK I got that off my chest, feel all better, thanks for listening.
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xphobe: Have you considered collecting coins that represent as many different types of alloys as possible?

Here are a few: hydrogenium... the British Royal Mint made a few trial sovereigns from these; Orichalcum (Roman brass), electrum (gold / silver alloy) lead ( I have two: one from Angkor Wat (circa 1450, and one from South India circa 200 AD).

How about coins made from other materials? eg leather, ivory (coins from Cocos Keeling Islands) plastic (same place) stone (Yap Island) porcelain (Meissen - Germany) paper, cardboard, and that old favourite, encased postage stamps especially those in a mica case. Money has even made out of compressed tea bricks (China).
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xphobe: Very well put! I completely agree.

sel: Neat list of offbeat coins. A collection of many different coin compositions would be really cool to see!
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Have you considered collecting coins that represent as many different types of alloys as possible?

Here are a few: hydrogenium


You are yanking my chain, right? I thought hydrogenium was the metallic form of hydrogen, found (theoretically) in the cores of gas giant planets like Jupiter. It would take over a million atmospheres of pressure to create a hydrogenium coin, and it would last about a microsecond before vaporizing.

But yes I've considered collecting other materials. It would be an interesting collection, and an open-ended set since the number of possible materials is infinite. I think I'd have to insist that the material was actually used in commerce, rather than some kind of NCLT or collector issue. Even then, where do you stop? If pigs and chickens were used in trade, would I have to have one of each? If a big Yap stone was worth one bride, would I have to collect both the stone and the bride? ;)

edit: Oh wait, I found one. http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/...ctID=3813086

Fascinating! Now what in the world is hydrogenium?

edit #2: Ah. Apparently, since he knew that hydrogen is often present in the crystal lattice of palladium, chemist Thomas Graham concluded that the hydrogen must be given off by some very volatile metal which he called "hydrogenium" which he presumed formed an alloy with palladium. Today we know that he was wrong about that, palladium is simply a very good absorber of hydrogen molecules!

Interesting. Learn something new every day. I think I'll include that photo on my palladium page.
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Found this on the net

"In 1869, Graham had a number of medallions minted in what he believed to be an alloy of palladium and hydrogen, which he called hydrogenium"


http://www.stillwaterpalladium.com/history4.html
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... the only antimony coins ever made (a 1931 Kweichow 10 cent piece) are very rare and are going for insane money in Asian auctions these days ...


I wonder what the mintage figure on this coin was. Anyone know?
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Now, I think this discussion ought to be moved into the general forum - more people would see it - very interesting stuff!
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I could, but the original poster is ineligible for General Discussion access.
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Did I say general? I meant main forum - it's a discussion of coins but "non-denominational".
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Gotcha!

I will leave that at the discretion of the original poster, since this is his welcome post.
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