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Is It Just Me Or Does Germany Have More Mints Than Anyone

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 Posted 11/29/2011  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maudry to your friends list
I believed I put a link to a book into my previous answer?
Anyway the book is from Kurt Jäger and is called 'Die deutschen Münzen seit 1871' and is available at it's 21st edition.
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 Posted 12/01/2011  07:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spock1k to your friends list
well india had a lot of mints during the mughal era. in the modern era since milled coinage we have had

bombay
calcutta
madras closed down in 1862
hyderabad
lahore - which went to pakistan
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 Posted 12/05/2011  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list

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Anyway the book is from Kurt Jäger and is called 'Die deutschen Münzen seit 1871' and is available at it's 21st edition.

Actually it's the 22nd edition now. :) But for somebody who is interested in nazi coins only, that would be too comprehensive and expensive, I think. Here are a few sample pages from the current Jaeger catalog: http://www.gietl-verlag.de/blaetter...og/index.php

(Edit) As for the number of mints, the nazi regime did actually have a plan to build one central minting facility in Berlin and then close all others. But that did not happen. The Federal Republic of Germany has five mints, and contrary to the US Mint for example, these are all state owned/operated, not federal institutions.

Christian
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 Posted 12/05/2011  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
Most countries had more mints in the past than they do now. France used to have a couple dozen; now they only have one. Australia once had three mints, now there's only two (and one of those doesn't strike circulation coins). China used to have at least one mint in each province, now there are only three left on the mainland (and one on Taiwan). Even Germany had more mints back when it first formed (nine) than it does now.

I suspect the main factor in decreasing the number of mints is the improvement in transportation and economies of scale means it's cheaper to have just one large mint with coin distributed from there, rather than hire mint workers in multiple sites to do the same job in different places.

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The Federal Republic of Germany has five mints, and contrary to the US Mint for example, these are all state owned/operated, not federal institutions.

Which explains why the German multiple-mint system has lasted for so long - each mint is a nice little money-earner for the state it happens to be located in.

Here in Australia, we have two mints - one is owned by the federal government, the other owned by the state of Western Australia. These two mints issue completely different coinages (though all are technically Australian legal tender) and have developed quite different artistic styles and conventions; the federal mint's primary purpose is circulation coinage production, while the Perth Mint mainly produces bullion. The two mints are in fact in competition with each other for the NCLT collector coin market; on several occasions the two mints have issued rival coins commemorating the same event.
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 Posted 12/13/2011  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Unique Antique Gallery to your friends list
yes, German coins are very interesting to me & I think that ones from Hamburg, 1903 & 1907 come in many varieties. I have lots of them!
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 Posted 12/04/2012  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EY_Pep to your friends list
Are coins from any one mint more scarce than the other? Is there a mint mark to "look out" for?

I have a collection of a variety of German coins from 1900-1995 (some from each decade) and also want to know if there are any year's I should be looking out for.
Any help is appreciated.
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 Posted 12/04/2012  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list
In the Deutsches Reich, which was dominated by Prussia, Berlin/A would usually have the biggest share. Today, in the Federal Republic of Germany (1949-), Stuttgart/F usually has the biggest share. In the first 40 years, before the Eastern states (former GDR) joined the Federal Republic, Stuttgart's default share was 30%, Hamburg 26.7%, Munich 26%, Karlsruhe 17.3%. Once Berlin joined the "DM club", 23 years ago, that was changed to Stuttgart 24%, Hamburg and Munich 21% each, Berlin 20%, Karlsruhe 14%. But that is not universally applied; there may be exceptions ...

Christian
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 Posted 12/05/2012  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EY_Pep to your friends list
Seems I have some from each of the mints, thanks Christian
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 Posted 12/05/2012  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add platinrubel to your friends list
And the time before 1871 (German Empire was found then) it is quiet more interesting and difficult.
Beginning in the medieval time, there were hundreds of small or bigger states and countries, free cities, bishops and archbishops, counts and even kingdoms inside the HRR ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire )

It is very hard to understand the early german monetary system. the problem is, that there have not only been Mark and Pfennig. other coins were called e.g. heller, kreutzer, kreitzer, penning, thaler, taler,schwaren, stueber, sechsling, dukat, gulden, dicken, oort, groschen, dreier, batzen, blaffert, albus,.... there are dozens of different coins.
we also have no complete catalogue for german coins before 1800. therefore you must buy several hundred books.
a lot of the former german coins were also struck in mints across europe. from italy and austria, switzerland and france, belgium, netherlands, poland, czech and slovakia and the baltic states.

collecting german coins pre 1800 is very special and interesting. but the krause-cataloques are not the best books, they are only kind of overview. there are too many mistakes and wrong definitions in them.

http://www.amazon.de/Gro%C3%9Fer-de...p/3866460759
http://www.amazon.de/Deutscher-M%C3...f=pd_sim_b_3
http://www.amazon.de/Kleiner-deutsc...54185&sr=1-7

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 Posted 12/14/2012  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list
Yes, Germany can be challenging.
Even in the 20th Century, you have Kaiserreich, Weimar, Drittes reich, BRD(Westen), DDR, BRD (unified) and now Euro. DDR is easiest; BRD (W) the most complex (longest and most mints). I'm trying to put together all of BRD (W) and it's challenging. Over 1100 individual coins! Even if you skinny down to one coin per year per denomination it's still a 200+ coin set, And that's ignoring anything over 2 marks and commemoratives!
I'm starting to wonder if I've bitten off more than I can chew.
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 Posted 12/14/2012  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add platinrubel to your friends list
Oh and don´t forgeget the coins of Saarland.
And the ones of Danzig and also the German occupied countries during WWI and WWII.
And the German "Notgeld" and the money from the german colonies up to 1918.
I think in its long history, Germany issued more coins, than all other countries of the worl, together.





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 Posted 12/15/2012  02:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add turtleoverhead to your friends list

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Here in Australia, we have two mints...

Sap, don't forget The Bruce Canning Mint
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 Posted 12/15/2012  07:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list

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Even in the 20th Century, you have Kaiserreich, Weimar, Drittes reich, BRD(Westen), DDR, BRD (unified) and now Euro.

Well, I collect coins from here (Federal Republic of Germany, BRD) too, and have quite a few from the Deutsches Reich (1871-1949) as well. But I do not consider the Federal Republic "West" (guess that means both before and after Saarland joined) and Federal Republic "Unified" (guess that means after the Eastern states joined) to be different. After all, the only change in terms of coinage was that we got a fifth mint. Now the introduction of the euro cash actually changed the designs and denominations, and more. :)

But of course everybody is free to make his/her own categories. What I found peculiar though is those " DDR" links. Are they inserted automatically? They take you to a page where DDR (Doubled Die Reverse) is explained, but what you meant is the GDR, it seems ...

Oh, and have we mentioned the Mayer Mint? That is a private mint in Karlsfeld (near Munich, BY) which actually produces coins for some countries. Usually silver/gold collector coins though.

Christian
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 Posted 12/15/2012  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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What I found peculiar though is those " DDR" links. Are they inserted automatically? They take you to a page where DDR (Doubled Die Reverse) is explained, but what you meant is the GDR, it seems ...
Yes...they are inserted automatically for the education of American coin collectors, but are very confusing in this context.
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 Posted 12/16/2012  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list
Ah, I see (and just noticed the effect in my own reply), thanks!

Christian
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