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Not All Silver Is Equal

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 Posted 12/13/2011  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lagwagon211 to your friends list
man, thats classy
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 Posted 12/13/2011  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list
Trying now to get my hands on some more for a few of my buddies. I already know it'll come with a pretty substantial premium, but even if I was a strict bullion stacker/collector, I would not mind the odd "fine" silver piece for extra $.

It is superbly well presented. A very traditional dragon design on the front side with no lettering to distract from the art. The bar is in a fitted capsule and the capsule fitted in another clear plastic bank-marked case with a magnetic removable cover; just in case you'd like to handle the bar closer up, and who wouldn't! in the red felt clamshell it first looks like the silvery dragon is floating.

We got a 10g gold bar in the same design for the birth of our baby as well. Just beautiful.
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 Posted 12/17/2011  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add satxwd to your friends list
If you paid over spot for this then you paid too much. In my opinion.
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 Posted 12/17/2011  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerlinn to your friends list

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If you paid over spot for this then you paid too much. In my opinion.


He paid spot for the silver content.
Then he paid for design, fabrication, printing, packaging, and shipping.

Total cost is over spot as one cannot expect people to design, fabricate, package, store, and ship for free. Expecting people to work for FREE is totally UNREALISTIC in my opinion.
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 Posted 12/17/2011  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
I like it!

As far as paying over spot, if it's a gift and it's worth it to you, who cares? And I don't know this but I'm assuming that the spot value of silver, because it is a market commodity, at least to some degree takes into account refining and production costs. It has to. You just don't find silver bars buried in the sand. At least /I/ don't, darn it.

But there are lots of "above and beyond" examples of buying silver above spot... One example - if you can find an ASE for spot you're doing very well.

And let's look at this, for instance: http://www.nzmint.com/starwars/mill...con-coin-set

Way, WAY over spot. Now, to me they're pretty darn cool even though they're colorized. The packaging looks nice and Star Wars is an enduring classic. Some folks obviously spent a lot of time designing and producing this. If you're looking for silver just to invest, this isn't the ticket, nor is the dragon above since they both obviously carry large premiums. But that's not what these are designed for.

Unless you are investing, don't worry about spot. But don't get taken for a ride, either.

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 Posted 12/17/2011  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list
there are those of us who will pay a pretty premium over metal content for the history, scarcity, and back-story associated with a numismatic coin, and then there are those of us that value design and artistry in a "bullion" product as well.

to each his/her own I suppose.
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 Posted 12/18/2011  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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Expecting people to work for FREE is totally UNREALISTIC in my opinion.

, Merlin.

There have been times in my life when it was necessary to work cheap but never for free. I vowed not to do that very early on and kept that vow. This is in the professional realm and not in the family realm. There, it is pretty much the opposite... and for any number of good reasons!

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 Posted 01/06/2012  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverEye to your friends list
What do the characters say at the bottom of the case? Something special for the two of you? A very beautiful piece to be sure.

Also, does Taiwan hold a special meaning for you? Dragons? Or just a cool gift because the giver knows you like shiny metal things? ;)
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 Posted 01/06/2012  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add elkslayer132 to your friends list
Cool art bar!
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 Posted 01/08/2012  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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What do the characters say at the bottom of the case?

Probably something like, "This bar is WAY over-priced but the silly tourists who can't read Chinese will buy ANYTHING!".
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 Posted 01/09/2012  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list

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What do the characters say at the bottom of the case? Something special for the two of you? A very beautiful piece to be sure.

Also, does Taiwan hold a special meaning for you? Dragons? Or just a cool gift because the giver knows you like shiny metal things? ;)


The characters don't say much, just "commemorative silver bar issued by the bank of Taiwan." And, we wouldn't want to tip off the tourists now would we :p

I was born in Taiwan so the gift was fitting, coming from relatives who are still there. It's tradition for the elders from the family to present a gold and silver gift at weddings of the young couples. We thought we broke tradition by only having a small civil ceremony in Canada, so were pleasantly surprised by the gifts
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 Posted 01/09/2012  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list
Celtic knot nice link, I missed it first time through and was just re-reading this thread. Wow, they are overpriced, but like you said way cool for color silver coins. And the Millennium Falcon an Vader case is a real nice extra premium addition....

Would not be interested at that price, but something to look for elsewhere for less perhaps. The value of those will just continue to increase in my estimation, very collectible and double angle Star wars and silver bullion.....

I found one seller in Spain with 5 sets of each of the two kinds, and they were listed at $525 an 25 more for shipping with best offer. Looks like he ordered himself ten sets from that sight you provided at 469 a set, lol. As it is the only place I figure you could get them, from that mint in New Zealand that makes them....

So if anyone wants one of those Star wars sets, they will have to fork out about 125 bucks per oz. regardless....
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 Posted 01/09/2012  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vinnycoin to your friends list
Since it was a gift I guess he got it for under spot? lolz

Would you happen to have a link for these art bars? I have a friend in the region and would sure like one!
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 Posted 01/09/2012  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list
Unfortunately no. Bank of Taiwan's website is woefully 15-20 years behind the times. I managed to have another relative in Taiwan order a few more for me so I can give and sell them here. They are now off-sale, though, so would have to talk to the bank directly or the post offices in Taiwan to see if they can find the unsold inventory.
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 Posted 01/09/2012  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeBrax to your friends list
That is a really nice Bar wish I would have gotten something like that for my wedding!
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