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coop thank you that is a great illustration of marks.....how is mine much different than the N on the second to the last line? mine I think is NW but still looks a lot like that N... besides inspecting the mint mark, you had asked about the date. my date is not doubled nor is any other part of the penny. is that not relevant because of the year? at this point I feel like I'm being stubborn. but I really want to understand in general how this is not an RPM I've got tons of pennies that I know are MD and a few I know are RPM they are "on the list" and some you have been very helpful to teach me about other errors. and I've been learning a lot I really am appreciative.
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wow, thank you, that first one of the 83 is the closest one I've seen to what wee have. I'm ready to concede the point. but could you point out the differences between that and http://koinpro.tripod.com/Varieties...1cRPM001.jpg which is ken potters RPM I feel like I'm looking at one of those kids puzzles to find the difference and while obviously its going in a different direction but what am I missing...? |
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http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mdsThat one is RPM # 1 1985D-1MM-001 on coppercoins. It is a south east. D/D Notice how the mint mark is strong and the RPM is weaker. On your coin the mint mark is damaged from ejection doubling/die movement. The machine normally strikes normal coins with these dies, but then a problem with the machine damaging the coin you received. On a RPM all coins struck with that obverse die has the same location for the mint mark and exactly the same direction & spread. Because of die wear the shape may change a little from different die states. Here is an example of one:  Highlight message to the right...... They are both from the same die. Just different die states. Note the die scratches on both coins. The one is fading, but they match up just like finger prints.
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01/11/2012 12:05 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Hi Mary,
If Charles Daughtrey said it is an RPM, why are you still questioning it? He is an expert and he works with Bob at CopperCoins.com. I think Charles has another site too.
Wes
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Wquinn..... ummm. did Charles say its an RPM? whats his user name?
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Oh sorry, that was Joey. I hate it when people hijack a thread.  I don't know how I missed that.  So you can email coppercoins.com a photo and see what they say. Charles's ID is coppercoins too. |
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oh, ok. thanks.......well I think I'm done stressing out over it. the help that coop has given me is awsome trying to understand. I think I still disagree on the Machine Doubling. but a better pic would help I've ordered a usb microscope camera in hopes of being able to take better pics. in the meantime I've put it back onto ebay startin at a .01 and I'm just not gunna say what it is for sure, then no one can ding me. if any of you want it and get it in hand I would love to know your opinion of it in hand but thanks again for all your help. I will send it to coppercoins.com too just to see what he says. |
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Which USB microscope did you buy? I've been thinking of getting one some day, since they do take really nice pics and the files are automatically uploaded to your PC, ready to be posted.
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I got a cheap one on ebay from china it was like $25 including shipping http://www.ebay.com/itm/26086176870....m1439.l2649 this is the one I got, there are tons more from the same seller and others. if it works well and I can see a good reason to upgrade then I'll spend the couple hundren bucks to get a nicer one if need be. but I'm hoping this one will be good enough for my hobbying |
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The biggest problem with the cheap scopes is the plastic lens they use. If they would give a better eye piece that would be so much better. But I saved my money to get one I really wanted instead of having to settle for less. (I had the cheaper one and was not happy with it and never looked back on them.) The last image on the ebay image's confirm it is Machine Doubling. Note how the top of the mint mark is pushed and reduced in size? It is even thinner than a normal mint mark. If it were a RPM, it would be enlarged not smaller. Edited by coop
01/11/2012 4:28 pm
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so which one did you end up with?
its funny I've posted that same pic on here but I had traced the red lines around it and put arrow to point out the serifs but I guess that distorted the important details. I do see the damage to the mint mark on the top serif
hmmm.... now I'm gunna have to look at it again.
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ok so just thought I would send an update.... I put it at auction the link should be above. it sold for 4.10 and the person who bought it just left feedback - great price and accurate description....... If only I could sell every such penny for $4.00
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Congrats on the sale! Your scope does take nice photos. You might need to adjust the lighting or put the camera on a stand to hold it steadier to get a little clearer photos.
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