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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I usually get second hand copies of Krause, but the four covering the last 400 years that I have are 10 years old now. As you would expect, the prices are way out of date. Comparative pricing that is 10 years old can be of some benefit. For me, not to worry, I have many ways of finding current values, via current auction catalogues, from more up to date country specific price lists, and information from the 'Net. I can easily believe that some Krause prices were not correct in the first place. The more up to date auction catalogues that I have reveal different opinions re pricing.
Nevertheless, the advent of the Krause series of catalogues was a huge leap forward in numismatic publishing, and the comprehensive photography is heavily relied on.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
508 Posts |
#1. It doesn't matter how old of an edition you get. The value is in the ID, not the prices, as svslav mentioned. I have a 2006 version. #2. I have the paper version only; wouldn't be happy with CD. Other: If you haven't already, you need to bookmark Don's World Coin Gallery. There is an alternative book called "Collecting World Coins: Circulating Issues 1901 - Present" that I would recommend over the standard catalog. It is basically the standard catalog without all of the not-intended-for-circulation junk. This greatly reduces the size while still being 99% as useful. -wheatiefan
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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wheatiefan: You have made a good point. Nevertheless, a lot of the mints around the World are now issuing for circulation bulk coins commemorative coins, that are obviously NOT NCLT. That presents a problem for catalogers. Do you include these commemorative or don't you?
Krause has responded by publishing their Unusual World Coins, but the mints still find ways of making things difficult for them.
You now have me looking for the alternative publication at least to examine, because the Krause reference is ready for replacement.
Edited by sel_69l 01/07/2012 03:18 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
695 Posts |
Late last year I purchased a second-hand copy of the Standard Catalog of World Coins 1901 - 2000 through Amazon.com for considerably less than a new one. It was 'second-hand' only in name as it came in new condition together with a CD. It has proved invaluable for identifying coins, weight, diameter, mintage etc. Catalog prices are not important as more up-to-date pricing can be obtained from sites such as http://www.ngccoin.com or http://www.numismaster.com
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Moderator
 Australia
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If you buy a secondhand 2006 edition or earlier (the most recent edition I own), you'll also get the first few years of the 2000s included. The 2000s catalogue didn't begin until 2007.
The main difference year-to-year is prices, so if prices aren't important to you, the age of the catalogue shouldn't be either. They tend to put a few more pictures in each year. While a few errors and omissions might get corrected, Krause seems to generate new ones each year to replace them.
They didn't have CD versions back when I bought mine - the only electronic copies of Krause back then were the Russian bootleg scans, so I've never tried to use one. Krause and/or online booksellers often bundle the book and CD together.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4212 Posts |
Keep an eye out for library book sales. They get rid of their Krauses' yearly.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
508 Posts |
I purchased a used, full size 2006 krause standard catalog for $15-20 a few years ago. The shipping cost more than the book. I believe this was from a CCF member. I purchased the smaller "Circulating issues" a little later, used, for about $15 after shipping. This was from Amazon. I've seen for sale "A Catalog of Modern World Coins, 1850-1964" by the same company that makes the Red Book, but haven't perused it. The time frame seems like it would be helpful for some collectors, but once you commit to the krause 'by century' books, you're not likely to need it. Wizard coin sells it for $15 new. Quote: ...a lot of the mints around the World are now issuing for circulation bulk coins commemorative coins, that are obviously NOT NCLT. That presents a problem for catalogers. Do you include these commemorative or don't you? When I first received the Circulating Issues book, I saw page after page of similar coins from Thailand, Spain, UK, and others, and thought I'd been misinformed. I didn't realize there were so many intended-for-circulation commemoratives. As far as the catalog goes, as you say, the mints have made it hard for them. I think if they're likely to show up in pocket change, they deserve to be included. I don't think every US State Quarter needs its own KM#, but that's one of many judgement calls they have to make. . . As a collector, I'm not interested in collecting them. -wheatiefan
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Valued Member
 United States
318 Posts |
I was just able to purchase a "like new" 2011 edition of the World Coins catalog on ebay for $27 (includes shipping). Can't wait for it to come in. Also my dad gave me his small foreign collection yesterday so can't wait to use the book when it arrives.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
539 Posts |
I like having the hard copy but the CD versions are marvelous for 'traveling'. I have 3 of Kruase catalogs on CD (and subsequently loaded on my hard drive) and when I'm gone for a weekend, carrying my laptop anyway, it becomes invaluable when I run across a shop. And as for current pricing, others have already chimed in the NGC site is great!
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New Member
Canada
4 Posts |
I was about to order a Krause book but noticed the CD version - does it have PDFs or ereader files on it? If I can read it on my phone that would be nice.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
The only coin books I buy are nomally several years old. I never sell coins so any prices are not what I'm interested in anyway. For US coins, I buy a Red Book, hardcover, every year but never use them. They are part of my Red Book collection, nene ever opened. Otherwise, I like any coin books at least 4 or more years old.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
I usually replace my Krause catalogues when the current one I am using starts to fall apart. They are replaced with good condition second hand copies, which come from my friendly dealer, when he is getting rid of old stock 'on the cheap'.
The poorer condition copies of Krause I just give away for free, to anyone who may be interested. I have even given old copies back to my friendly dealer for free, so he can on sell them to young collectors, who may have only one or two dollars to spend. It is a good way for a dealer to get kids into the numismatics of older coins, and have new customers, and to maintain friendly relations with his customer base, both young and old. Out of date pricing matters little to me. What CAN be important is the comparative pricing within a volume. This information CAN, but not always, indicate that a particular type that you are interested in, could be of significant value. If that turns out to be important to me, (which is not all that often), I will go searching elsewhere for current pricing, such as my friendly coin dealer's current shop copy, or via the Web. I maintain the ownership of Krause catalogues, covering the last 400 years of numismatics.
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Moderator
 United States
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the Krause CD versions are PDF files, and are very easy to navigate. The file for 1901-2000 coins is about 486 meg
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1088 Posts |
I was able to purchase the Standard Catalog of World Coins off of bookfinder.com a few months back. the 38th edition which was 2010 I believe. Bookfinder allows you to find the lowest price, it checks all book websites. I found it for under $12 shipped. I then purchased the 2001-present book for around $8 for the 2001-2010. I am yet to find a 1801-1900 if any one knows where to find a good deal on one of those I would love to hear about it
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Valued Member
United States
55 Posts |
I stopped buying the paper catalogs about 5 years ago and shifted to Numismaster. As much as I despise the shortcomings of the interface and their reluctance to actually make it more functional and accessible, it's still much more usable than lugging ginormous catalogs around. It also gets updated more frequently. Some of the volumes, like the 1601-1700 volume, may only get published every 4-5 years or so. If you only need 1 or 2 volumes of Krause, it might not be that worthwhile, but as someone who uses ALL of the volumes, it's quite cost-efficient. Plus, I have access to it out on the road without carrying 40+ pounds of paper catalogs. I get the "All Access" package, which gets you access to the following: 1. World Coins 1601-1700 2. World Coins 1701-1800 3. World Coins 1801-1900 4. World Coins 1901-2000 5. World Coins 2001- 6. Unusual World Coins 7. Canadian Coins Don't subscribe via the Numismaster page though. That rate is $109.95 per year, which is insanely expensive. You'd be better off buying the paper books. Instead, you want to buy a subscription to the "Numismaster VIP Club": http://www.shopnumismaster.com/numi...ter-vip-clubFor $39.98 per year you get the All-Access guide subscription, plus digital AND PRINT subscriptions to Numismatic News, plus 10% off all ShopNumismaster orders. For someone who has interest in both U.S. and World coins, it's a great deal. Right now, use coupon code REDTAG10NM for 10% off the price (offsets the sales tax). You can buy subsequent and multiple quantities to extend both your Numismaster and Numismatic News subscriptions. IMO for $40 per year, it's a no-brainer.
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