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 Posted 01/08/2012  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ausjack to your friends list
Yeah trout..good points mate
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 Posted 01/08/2012  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enoilgam to your friends list
I dont know if it is a scam, I think its more just an uneducated seller. The coin is rarer than a 1930 Penny, but it was never issued for circulation. Also, rarity isn't the sole test of a coins value. Values are determined by supply and demand - a 1909 s VDB Lincoln Cent for example has a mintage of 400,000 and retails for about $1000 in average condition. It attracts that amount because the supply of these coins is far exceed by the demand for them.

Added to that, its just another in a long line of collectors coins which are constantly being churned out by the mint. In any case, $50,000 is way too much for this coin.
Edited by enoilgam
01/08/2012 10:39 pm
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 Posted 01/08/2012  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list
I think we should have a comment from the seller seeing we are being rather critical. In effect a right of reply.
So, I have sent a question via ebay..."Wow, what a story. Now just slip along to any reputable dealer and they may have a full 1966 Decimal heritage set for about $1,500.00. That not only includes one of these 1¢ coins but 2¢, 5¢, 10¢, 20¢ and round 50¢. That's six coins for only a fraction of the price of one. Sell them separately on ebay and you can retire on the proceeds, NOT."
I will advise if any reply received.

Usually with this type of listing either no reply is forthcoming or the reply is rather abusive.

Jeff
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 Posted 01/08/2012  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list
http://www.ebay.com/itm/23072060056...fvi=1&_rdc=1
2012 Maccas puts one of these at $400 value.
Can you read the date on the 5¢ photo?

Seller is a dealer with a shop in Darwin who sells many proof and UNC coins from broken mint sets on ebay. Usually his prices are reasonable. Maybe he knows something we don't.

Jeff
Edited by Jeff
01/08/2012 11:15 pm
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 Posted 01/08/2012  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
Many US coins were NIFC, but they are still collected.
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 Posted 01/09/2012  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve - Oz 50c man to your friends list
i spent a long time going back and forth with this guy over the 50c coin from the same set - I pointed out that the gold sets from 2006 and 2007 only had a mintage of 300. I pointed out that it would be more fair to say "among the lowest" minted to no avail...
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 Posted 01/09/2012  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blinky Bill to your friends list
Woof

"Seller is a dealer with a shop in Darwin who sells many proof and UNC coins from broken mint sets on ebay. Usually his prices are reasonable. Maybe he knows something we don't".

There's one born every minute?

A fool and his money are easily parted?





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 Posted 01/09/2012  02:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MobOfRoos to your friends list
There was some discussion on the NCLT forum about a similar stunt this seller pulled on the 50c coin.

The seller has conceded that he will never sell the coin. What he is actually doing is a publicity stunt to start people talking about the coin set and raise its profile (and its value too he is hoping).

I guess he has succeeded.
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 Posted 01/09/2012  02:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list

Quote:
The seller has conceded that he will never sell the coin. What he is actually doing is a publicity stunt to start people talking about the coin set and raise its profile (and its value too he is hoping).

I guess he has succeeded.

I think that he has succeeded in disenfranchising quite a few potential buyers from this seller by doing this "STUNT"
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 Posted 01/09/2012  05:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list
Reply from seller;
"Dear solution2852,

I have tried to purchase these sets for $1500 know any one who has got one
that would like to sell it. Who says I am trying to sell the coin, I am
really trying to advertise the fact that the coins exist, most collectors
have never heard of this set. The price I have advertised the coin for was
to ensure that I would not sell the coin or what the coin should be worth
in say 10 years time. Think about it 400 1c, 2c, & 50c coins 120 in total,
there are 3 times more 1930 pennys in existance that there are these coins.
What I am really trying to do is drive the price up and advertise the fact
that the coins exist. I have collected coins for 40 years now and have a
1930 penny and 3 of these sets and in that I have neve sold a single coin.
I really don't think I am about to start now. The price stated was to
ensure that they would not be sold, but I believe they will be worth that
in say 10 years time once they become known.

-sjwuble"

No Comment from me. But I am uncertain what he is really trying to achieve.
"I have never sold a single coin.
I really don't think I am about to start now." So why bother listing on ebay?

Jeff
Edited by Jeff
01/09/2012 05:12 am
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 Posted 01/09/2012  05:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ausjack to your friends list
keeps getting better and better and some thought I'd go quiet..why would I go quiet and miss all this action at the auction
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 Posted 01/09/2012  05:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
This bloke cant be all there. I've never heard of anything more stupid than raising awareness for something on ebay. Trout's comment regarding this not being a rare coin is spot on. I don't see it as much more than a novelty made by the mint as bait for naive people.
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 Posted 01/09/2012  05:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MobOfRoos to your friends list

Quote:
But I am uncertain what he is really trying to achieve.
"I have never sold a single coin.
I really don't think I am about to start now." So why bother listing on ebay?


There are two things that affect the value of a coin. It's rarity and its popularity. In other words if "demand" exceeds "supply" then the value of a coin increases. The "supply" is already set at 400 coins, what this seller is trying to do is increase "demand".

I don't know if it will succeed in the long term but I can see what he is trying to do.
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 Posted 01/09/2012  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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So why bother listing on ebay?

ebay won't allow promotional ads where no product is offered for sale. Since he would sell at that ridiculous figure, his listing meets their rules.

This has been going on for a century or more, when B Max Mehl offered $50 each for 1913 V nickels, knowing he had the entire production. Offering two week's pay for a nickel got people talking about coins, and getting his buy catalogs.
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 Posted 01/10/2012  03:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Craig to your friends list
I have one of these Heritage proof sets and while I agree that it should not be called rare (its meant to be low mintage proof set) it is just low mintage. I wouldnt call the set rubbish, it is quite impressive. I had some initial problems with the quality of some of the coins which the mint replaced but still retained the one in the link I posted earlier. The coin still puzzles me, any other ideas?

https://goccf.com/t/79725

If this guy wants $50K for the 1c coin, I'm willing to part with it, the 2c coin and the silver round 50c for the same Price, 3 for $50k must be a bargain! HAHAHA
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