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1969 Nickel Dollar Short Water Lines

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 Posted 01/16/2012  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list
coincollect1 you are supost to send me the doubled 69 lol
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 Posted 01/19/2012  06:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsnpaper to your friends list
These are completely different dies- notice the extra little bump at the top denticle on the top illustration. Notice where the actual island connects with the denticle- the top illustration has it at the bottom of the denticle, where the bottom illustration has it at the top. Notice the angle that the island connects with the canoe- the top angle is about 30 degrees, while the bottom island connects at about 45 degrees. GOod eye.
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 Posted 01/19/2012  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
different dies,great observation staceyc,thanks for sharing.
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 Posted 05/13/2012  12:04 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
staceyc777, since you posted this example in January, I have examined hundreds of 1969 dollars without finding a single example. I would like to include your 1969 dollar coin into a variety volume. Please send me a message via the forum.
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 Posted 11/01/2014  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Finally, after 3 years of hunting, I have found one... definitely a polished die, short waterlines, at the stern.
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 Posted 11/02/2014  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list
Wow. This is pretty huge.
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 Posted 11/02/2014  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinpicker to your friends list
Hi! I pick up nickel dollars and fifty cent pieces from the bank whenever they get them and are offered. Sometimes I can get $3 each for the dollars or use them to trade for other coins.
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 Posted 02/13/2015  10:27 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
This variety was featured in this month's issue of the CN Journal, in the Canadian Spice column (Volume 60, page 36). CCF and the original poster of this thread were given full acknowledgements....
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 Posted 02/16/2015  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add masterofsecrets to your friends list
haha, of course I find this thread just after packing up a hundred 69s to go back to the bank. Oh well, someone else can have the joy of searching them.
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 Posted 02/16/2015  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
Well that deserves a Big Congrats to Staceyc777..
And to SPP too for finally finding one..lol
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 Posted 05/31/2016  01:03 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Since 2012, when this thread was originally posted, after searching tens of thousands of nickel dollars, I have only found eight of this 1969 short water lines variety. But of the eight, I did manage to find a real gem!!

http://www.PCGS.com/cert/33950783
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 Posted 05/31/2016  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list
Thats a lovely little gem for sure..it's always awesome to find something quite scarce that nice.
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 Posted 05/31/2016  01:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
SPP, congrats on finding the gem.
One thing that still bothers me about this is that you attribute the short waterlines to a polished die yet the pics provided by the OP clearly show the waterlines and island of each coin have a different relationship to the denticles, something which I believe can't be achieved merely by polishing.
The pics in your article do not match the pics in this thread.
The OP's SWL coin is very different from the one pictured in your article.
Is the first pic provided by the OP not a '69?
What do you believe is the actual cause?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 05/31/2016  02:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list

The second coin posted by the OP matches a 68.
1969-Nickel-Dollar-Short-Water-Lines

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 Posted 05/31/2016  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list

Quote:
Is the first pic provided by the OP not a '69?
What do you believe is the actual cause?


I have looked for a 1969 dollar with waterlines like what the OP posted - I have yet to find any... the OP has never returned any messages I have sent him. I suspect his second photo (to illustrate 'normal' waterlines) was a 1968, as Alexer also observed.

Here is a normal 1969 dollar I have:

1969-Nickel-Dollar-Short-Water-Lines

Here is the short waterlines variety (which is similar to the 1968 No Island, in many respects):

1969-Nickel-Dollar-Short-Water-Lines

Everything I have seen to date mirrors my two images - which leads to the logical conclusion of Die Deterioration (over polishing of the reverse die).
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