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1980 D Lincoln Cent In Very Late Die State (Educational Post For Starters)

 
 
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 Posted 05/02/2018  4:48 pm Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I just wanted to share this for educational purposes only. This would be a great post for starters. This coin is in a Very Late Die State because of all of the mushiness and what we call die flow lines. Die flow lines are these little lines that go outwards to the edge of the die when the die starts to age. As the die starts to age, the die starts to slowly break down over time (Die Deterioration also known as Die Attrition). Eventually, failures start to happen such as Die Breaks, Die Cracks, Broken Die Posts, Die Clashes, and Die Chips. Die states help tell what state (condition) the die was in when it struck the coin. There are 4 different types of states. Early Die State, Mid Die State, Late Die State and the very last is Very Late Die State. This is all normal wear and tear on the die and doesn't carry any value over face value. This die was at the end of its life when this coin was struck as you can tell by the outward stretching of the letters. All credit goes to Coop, Crazyb0, and CoinMasters for creating the images that I'm going to use. I hope this will help you out. Thank you guys for educating me as well!







More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 05/02/2018  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CJ18850 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Errers and Varietys I enjoyed the brush-up lesson.
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You're very welcome CJ18850! Thank you for checking it out! I tried my hardest to explain things easily. This is just what I knew out of my head. This is what I call a brush-up. If I need to correct anything, just tell me and I'll correct it. I'm not an expert, but just a knowledgeable person.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 05/02/2018  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, that's a great sussinct write up! Needs a bookmark!
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 Posted 05/02/2018  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Hey, that's a great sussinct write up! Needs a bookmark!


Thank you very much Crazyb0! I tried my absolute hardest to explain all of these things and tried to keep it as simple as possible. I'm glad you like it. And I do agree that it needs to get bookmarked.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 05/02/2018  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eye4Error to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for this...

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 Posted 05/02/2018  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're very welcome Eye4Error! I'm glad you found this helpful.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 05/02/2018  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
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 Posted 05/02/2018  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow Coop! That's an extreme example of heavy die wear you posted. Thank you very much for sharing and posting that picture! Very good Coop!
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 05/02/2018  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bamasoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very informative, thank you!
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 Posted 05/02/2018  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're very welcome bamasoe and thank you for checking out my informative post! I'm glad it was helpful for you! That's my goal with this thread is to have very informative information, so the starters can understand it more easily.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 05/08/2019  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cecilia Sowinski to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am still new and consider myself pretty naked with knowledge. There is so much involved and some many different things to know. When learning about error coins I jumped right into coin roll hunting and literally believing every other coin I looked at had an error on it. I assume this is the case for a lot of people (just a personal assumption). It would have served me better to jump into educating myself first but hey that's what life's about living and learning. This post was really helpful for me. Having images (and not just of coins but of the process) for me is so so helpful. When just reading about what is what and why....etc, its easy to get confused. This Thread left no room for confusion. Very very helpful for me.

Thank You for posting this even if was a year ago :)
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I always wondered what caused that and now I know what it is called! Thank you for posting this it is very useful and helpful

I was worried about joining this forum at first because I have seen other forums be really mean to newbies but you guys are great! Thank you!
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