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 Posted 02/02/2012  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
Interesting you choose that example, but that's no sort of investing, it's simply called dealing, not that there's anything wrong with that.

That set, $210 face, at one point was worth considerably less than face value for its 30 ounces of silver. A bunch of dealers tried to turn in a few hundred thousand dollars worth, and no Canadian bank would accept them, even as a deposit. The mint eventually let them spend them for other mint products.
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 Posted 02/02/2012  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinvet to your friends list
I call it investing ... that example was a short term investment .... I do the same with certain stocks. I sometimes buy shares early in the day and sell them later that day or the next day or the nest week. Like the stock market, with coin investing you have to buy low and sell when its higher, timing is everything. You have to get in and then out with more than you had before you got in.
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 Posted 02/02/2012  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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I call it investing ... that example was a short term investment .... I do the same with certain stocks. I sometimes buy shares early in the day and sell them later that day or the next day or the nest week.


Call it whatever you want, it's dealing. When done with stocks, it's called day trading.
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 Posted 02/02/2012  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list

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Call it whatever you want, it's dealing. When done with stocks, it's called day trading

I call it taking advantage of the slow or simple minded
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 Posted 02/02/2012  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Almost anything that some use as a hobby can be turned into a profitable item. For example there are those that rebuild old cars and resell them for a profit. Others would rather take their time and rebuild one themselves. To buy an old car already fixed up can be fun but never as much as if you did it yourself. Building a flying type plane is another example of what some buy complete and others build themselves. Of course with that one when it crashes, and many do, it hurts a lot more if you did the building.
In the past I noticed when I was a kid, others that just bought or were given a car never really took care of them. Why should they? Just a car to them. BUT those that spent hours on even just the carburator also spent a lot of time washing, waxing, vacuuming that thing. They cared since it was now part of them.
Coins are sort of like that. For those that just buy a collection, when it is sold, so what. Just coins. I would suspect, maybe wrong, but anyone that spends hundreds of hours building a collection and had to sell it, would be like that person with a home made plane that crashed. There is a pain in loosing something that is part of you. Might well be why I just can't sell any of my coins.
And if I did ever inherit coins, again, they would always to me be a part of the person that left them to me. Would sort of be like selling memories.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinmap to your friends list

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There is no such animal as a complete set.


Good point, Trout.

It gets back to a thread I posted last year, of when a set is considered complete. A complete set for me, will probably not be a complete set for the next guy.
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 Posted 03/01/2012  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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There is no such animal as a complete set.


I've always thought the same thing but the real proof comes with anyone collecting Large Cents.
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 Posted 03/04/2012  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ibab to your friends list
Sometimes the sets are easier to sell than each individual coin. So there is something to be said for the marketability of an item as part of a collection.
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 Posted 03/05/2012  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add M0nks to your friends list
i still value my coins occasionally, but I never factor in when the metal values go down only up hmm sounds familar doesn't it oh thats right the oil companies seem to the think the same way as well HA
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 Posted 03/05/2012  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
Hypothetical question:
I want to buy a complete set, i. e. 74, of Barber dimes in AT LEAST FINE CONDITION. Higher condition acceptable.
Money is no object.

How long do I need to wait?
a) three hours
b) three days
c) three weeks
d) three months
e) longer

Compare this to a set of Kennedy halves in MS-60.
From 1964 to date.
Sets would be at my beck and call within MINUTES!

But I feel the same concern as the original poster.
And I am constantly working on the problem for myself and have no answer.

Collectors put together sets for the very reason that it takes YEARS to do so in the older series.
Large Cents? That is the work of a lifetime.

Selling these coins when the time comes?
That is a problem we long-time collectors share.


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 Posted 03/10/2012  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
three hours
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 Posted 03/10/2012  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Posted 03/05/2012 4:49 pm
Hypothetical question:
I want to buy a complete set, i. e. 74, of Barber dimes in AT LEAST FINE CONDITION. Higher condition acceptable.
Money is no object.

If you include the 1894S, might take longer than three hours.
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 Posted 03/10/2012  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Why a set is worth LESS in an outright sale than the sum of the pieces:

When you offer a set to a dealer there are typically a half dozen or so keys and semi keys that everyone is looking for and which he has problems keeping in stock. The rest of the set, unless it is very high grade or something along those lines, he already either has plenty of of they are always being offered to him. These coins are just so much dead weight because he already has all he needs and they are just going to tie up capital. So his offer is based on the keys and semi keys and the rest are just figured at very little if anything. Who knows you might even get a higher offer on the keys and semi-keys if he doesn't have to take the rest of the "Stuff" with it.
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 Posted 03/10/2012  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
I think if someone approached you and wants to buy a completed set from you, then the set could be considered to be the sum of all of the individual coins "plus" perhaps even an extra bonus for your collecting efforts, right?

... but if you go to a dealer and ask him to buy your completed set, at that point he is in the position to tell you what he is willing to pay and you really have no say in the asking price ... right?
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 Posted 03/12/2012  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Who knows you might even get a higher offer on the keys and semi-keys if he doesn't have to take the rest of the "Stuff" with it.
This is purely academic. I have so much other stuff that I would sell before my coins...

If I had to sell, I would just sell the keys. For me, it will be a lot easier (considering how long it has taken me to build my sets) to buy the keys again one the "crisis" has passed.
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