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Natural Or Not? LWC

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 Posted 03/21/2012  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list
LincolnGuy -- I'm new at this but I see what you mean. It is a great looking coin but the rim has dings and the letters on the reverse have dings and yet the coin is remarkably clean. Maybe that is possible...but add that to the purple spots...hmmmm...it does make one wonder.

But it is still a great looking coin.

I wonder if the cleaning products leave a scent.
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 Posted 03/21/2012  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LincolnGuy to your friends list
For anyone confused about my MS70 statement I was talking about the chemical called MS70 and NOT the grade.
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 Posted 03/21/2012  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
What do you think about this coin?

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 Posted 03/21/2012  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list
That coin was glued to something and the glue was later removed with acetone.
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 Posted 03/22/2012  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LincolnGuy to your friends list
That does not look like a natural tone to me thad.

Is CaptainFwiffo correct? Did you post that a while back? (about the glue)

I seem to vaguely remember something like that at some time..
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03/22/2012 01:47 am
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 Posted 03/22/2012  02:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LincolnGuy to your friends list
I have been messing around with pennies so I can spot a fake toned one, and well its not easy!
I love toners but I want natural toned ones and not artificial toned.. But that is a touchy subject.

My coin (from ebay) and thads look to be some sort of liquid chemical tone. Whether its glue or wet coin flip I have no idea.
So I would call them AT (even if someone didnt do it intentionally)


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03/22/2012 03:01 am
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 Posted 03/22/2012  02:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LincolnGuy to your friends list
This is another one I own. I also got this one off of ebay like the 1949. (different seller)

I would call this one NT. It looks natural to me. Again whether its intentionally toned or not I cant say for sure, but I'm betting its not.



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 Posted 03/22/2012  02:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LincolnGuy to your friends list
Here are some of the ones I have been messing with.

This is a heat toned penny.. Quite obvious. You can see where it was grabbed by pliers on the sides and they acted like a heat-sink and it didnt tone around where I grabbed it with them. You can also see how the colors are not as sharp as on thads coin.



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03/22/2012 03:14 am
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Now this is where things start to get tricky.
This one was left in a dry chemical for a while then heated. If it wasnt for the same pliers marks like the previous one it would be hard to tell.



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03/22/2012 03:05 am
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 Posted 03/22/2012  03:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LincolnGuy to your friends list
And this is where the whole NT/AT thing gets confusing...
This looks NT 100% Had I not done it myself I would call NT for sure. The type of tone looks just like on the 1939D I have.

The round untoned spot over lincoln if from some crud that was stuck on him... (dirty pocket change)



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03/22/2012 03:25 am
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 Posted 03/22/2012  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list
Ahhh. I do see there is a cleaner called MS70. Very interesting name for a cleaner.
http://www.amazon.com/MS-70-oz-Coin...p/B000YQBZPE
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 Posted 03/22/2012  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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 Posted 03/22/2012  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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And this is where the whole NT/AT thing gets confusing...

No, the whole NT/AT thing gets confusing at the definition.

For example, if someone wraps a new ASE in Kleenex and brings it out ten years later, it may be bright red. It wasn't intentional, so is it NT?

A similar coin laid out in a factory office might tone in a month or two. NT or AT, and why?

Without a definition, the answer is wide open.
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 Posted 03/23/2012  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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That coin was glued to something and the glue was later removed with acetone.


Half way right.

The reverse was glued to paper, the spots still red on the reverse is where the glue was stuck. I soaked it for a couple of days in water and it all came right off. One of the reasons I'm always telling folks....ALWAYS start with water then move to acetone, then xylene if needed.
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