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Does Anyone Collect English Silver Pennies? -Let's See Them!

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 Posted 05/13/2012  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list
I purchased this hammered ha'penny today at the coin show in Auburn, Mass.

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Halfpenny of King Edward III, London mint, 16mm.
Third or Florin coinage
obv: EDWARDUS REX
rev: CIVITAS LONDON

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 Posted 05/16/2012  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EarlyMilledCoins to your friends list
This is my first hammered silver penny, just acquired it recently.

Edward I Bristol mint penny, class 9b, AD 1300-02:
Obv: +EDWR ANGL DNS hYB, DWRANGL misstrike - Edward King of England Lord of Ireland, crowned front facing bust with star on breast.

Rev: VILLA/BRI/ STO/LLI, LLIVILLA mis/double strike as are pellets in corresponding angles of cross.
Weight: 1.3 grams. Dia: approx. 18mm.

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 Posted 05/17/2012  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list
Pretty nice!
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 Posted 05/19/2012  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list
Again I am really impressed by the coins of t360 and equally so by the ones from EarlyMilledCoins, dooly, and kuh_85.

Dooly I have to ask, is what appears to a half coin that t360 identified as King Henry III long cross coinage 1247-1272 a full coin or was it cut in half for some purpose.

This question probably shows my lack of knowledge but I am curious by nature.

In any event I am always impressed by the coins of antiquity and wish that I could run across them at any time.
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 Posted 05/19/2012  03:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeG to your friends list
Ghostrider; as far as I know it was not uncommon to have coins cut in half to provide lower denominations as there was a shortage of change in those days. If you had to pay 1/2 penny for some goods and only had a penny then you cut it in half. Remember that they were Silver and worth their Silver weight.
They were also worth quite a lot in spending terms; you could buy an awful lot with a penny in those days and it's unlikely that the poor would have seen that many of them.
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 Posted 05/20/2012  07:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list
Very interesting penny, EarlyMilledCoins!
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 Posted 05/20/2012  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Larryh86GT to your friends list

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If you had to pay 1/2 penny for some goods and only had a penny then you cut it in half. Remember that they were Silver and worth their Silver weight.
They were also worth quite a lot in spending terms; you could buy an awful lot with a penny in those days and it's unlikely that the poor would have seen that many of them.
Mike.


I have a couple of these half pennies and I've wondered about this for some time. How did they cut them in half? The cut is almost perfect. I would think that a lot of folks were poor and did not own tools.
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 Posted 05/20/2012  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list
More likely it was done my the merchants or they had it done by the local blacksmith.
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 Posted 05/20/2012  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EarlyMilledCoins to your friends list
Thanks t360. You've sparked my curiosity though. What makes it very interesting?
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 Posted 05/20/2012  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list
The Bristol mint, and all those pellets in just one quadrant on the back!
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 Posted 05/20/2012  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list
My historian friend said a ha'penny could be a full days wage.
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 Posted 05/20/2012  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EarlyMilledCoins to your friends list
Yea that is pretty cool, looks like it was double struck/miss struck. I honestly don't know a lot about these coins as I typically collect early milled coins (1660-1812), but I've always been fascinated with them and have always wanted one simply for the history.
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 Posted 05/25/2012  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bryan10au to your friends list
Hi this is the only one I have at the moment but I am looking to buy more at some point.
Cheers

1247-72 Penny Henry III (S.1373)


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 Posted 05/27/2012  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list
Great detail on that one, bryan10au!
Looks like the reverse legend is HENRI ON LVNDE (Henri at London).
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 Posted 05/29/2012  03:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list
Cut coins are very numerous.1/2's & 1/4's.I've even got a cut groat.The longcross was added to prevent clipping during Henry 111's reign.Edward 1 then introduced 1/2 d's and tiny farthings.
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