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1803 Bust Dollar

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 Posted 06/04/2012  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
I would take it out of the 2x2 and take a photo of the edge of the coin. The counterfeiters often get that bit wrong with this series. My first impression is that it is not the read deal because of the rims.
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06/04/2012 8:21 pm
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 Posted 06/04/2012  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list
It does not scream fake to me. I think it is genuine. However, it is harshly cleaned and has had a very rough life. VG10 details...but P01 $ value.
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 Posted 06/04/2012  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
Details look accurate. Would be a PHENOMENAL find for 25 cents. Looks to be about a G-4 details coin if authentic.
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 Posted 06/04/2012  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
Something about this coin doesn't look right. The date looks a bit malformed, in particular the 3 which does not appear to match either style found on genuine examples.
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 Posted 06/04/2012  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
It has a cast appearance to it and I doubt any dealer, world or U.S., would overlook this coin if genuine.
What is the weight?
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 Posted 06/04/2012  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
Date seems pretty close to this example: http://www.teletrade.com/coins/lot....4&lot=1784#n
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 Posted 06/04/2012  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ReefAsh to your friends list
Just weighed it at 25.4 grams. It doesn't stick to a magnet by the way.
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 Posted 06/04/2012  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list
with a second look the date does look a little off. Still not convinced it is fake though..Vermont is right weight would help...and edge picture...
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 Posted 06/04/2012  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list
w/ D0ubl3Eagle. The 3 is all wrong. The Sm 3 has a knob at the end of the lower loop, & the Lg. 3 has a full serif at the top of the 3. Yours seems to have half a serif in this location.

To be honest I too would have bought that for a quarter.
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06/05/2012 06:52 am
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Is it dollar of half?


It's a dollar
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 Posted 06/05/2012  08:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
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Second:
try here - this site is a gem for identifying these dollars. I think it might help since fakes will. most likely, not match up to an actual listing.
http://www.earlydollars.org/wizarddate3.htm
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 Posted 06/05/2012  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
closest to the small 3 variety, but not quite right. Could be damage, but I would still lean towards a replica of some kind based on my earlier comments.
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 Posted 06/05/2012  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add donkrx to your friends list
The gap between the star & Y in LIBERTY seems too small, and the 3 doesn't look right for a couple reasons. The grainy look I think is at least partially due to the scanner.

I rescaled the image in question to compare it side by side to the legit example (I'm assuming this is the correct variety based on that link provided).

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 Posted 06/08/2012  04:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ReefAsh to your friends list
Thanks everyone for your help. Thank you Earle42 for the link, it helped me out a lot. Thank you donkrx for the detailed comparison.
At this point I'm convinced that it's a fake. The edge looks spot-on however the date looks questionable to me. Also, on the reverse, under the eagle's right wing, towards the bottom of the wing, there is an unusual speck.
Regardless, I'm thrilled that I scored this for a quarter. I'm only 17 but I'm willing to bet that I won't come across a coin like this in a junk box ever again in my lifetime.
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06/08/2012 04:16 am
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 Posted 06/08/2012  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I would buy it as addition to my 'black' collection.
These things need to be studied closely to educate yourself in the identification of fakes. You need to be familiar with them.

At 25 cents it is a good buy, even for a fake.
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