1805 8 Reales

Namachieli - I too am very curious what the "small nose variety" is. Is there a "large nose variety" ?
Larry

Thanks for the help. It sounds like I over payed a bit for it. I think it is neat and I am sure I have spent money worse ways, so still feeling good about my purchase.

The transitional types are only in 1789 and 1790. Which probably explains why I have never heard that term applied to a coin dated 1805. Personally I find both Carlos III and Carlos IIII to be fine looking gentlemen of obvious education, wealth and class and I bet they were a hit with the ladies of the Spanish court.
CoinHawkeye, you got a great coin and I hope it triggers a life long passion for these interesting and highly collectible historically significant coins. If you have questions about them, there are several of us here on the forum happy to share information and we are all enrolled in Swamperbobs "university of counterfeits" class that he teaches here from time to time.

Nice one. Guadalajara Mint 1813 8 Reales struck on a cast planchet (hence the areas of porosity). Does it have a colonial edge, or the flower-rectangle of the 1812?

I don't know the difference between the two types of edges. Here is a picture of it.

WOW that is an unexpected edge !!
CoinHawkeye could you please tell us how much
the coin weights?
Since it was cast, instead of punched from sheet
maybe the edger was out ? so they used a 1 Reales edge?
and flipped it over? Just a guess. (had heard of that) Very cool coin!!

student ;)

CoinHawkeye : you found a very interesting coin here !
It looks like the early Guadalajara unique edge indeed.

I looked at the coin closer, and I think that it may be a 13 over 12.