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New Member
United States
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I saw someone else post a nearly identical nickel on Reddit and comments called it Progressive Indirect Design Transfer. I know the larger shape of Jefferson on the reverse appears very similar to PIDT, but I'm wondering if this is actually a die clash that was polished down a lot so the die could be reused. 1. I believe the first T from TRUST (clashed from the obverse onto the reverse) was missed during polishing and still appears clearly at the bottom corner of the building. 2. The top of the building clashed onto the obverse over the end of the ponytail. These impressions are a lot stronger and more defined than what I understand PIDT is capable of. 3. Jefferson's neck is all but gone, presumably polished away when they were cleaning up the die. What do you think?     
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Yes, that is PIDT also known as ghosting. It is a form of Die Deterioration that adds no value.
Edited by JimmyD 08/24/2026 12:12 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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Interesting find. You should label it and keep for future reference.
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New Member
 United States
36 Posts |
JimmyD, thanks for the reply. Did you read my three points or are they irrelevant?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
79716 Posts |
Looks like both PIDT and Die Clash remnants.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6906 Posts |
The obverse looks much more like a clash remnant after heavy die polishing. That's why the low points of Jefferson's neck are missing, starting with the cravat.
The reverse is PIDT. It is much too wide and soft to be a clash. Clashes leave sharply defined creases, and if an engraver had abraded the die face, it would not look like that. It seems strange that the reverse doesn't really match the obverse, but the Mint would pair up used dies to keep striking coins.
In the future, please give us at least one image of each coin face in the proper orientation.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1826 Posts |
Interesting educational piece!
Very intense polishing on the obverse (under his chin is gone, wow), intense PIDT reverse... No premium IMO, but very interesting piece.
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Moderator
 United States
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A fine example of PIDT. Good call 
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New Member
 United States
36 Posts |
Here are two more ways to look at it lined up  
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Moderator
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196572 Posts |
Looking good! 
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Valued Member
United States
189 Posts |
Nice pix of a good example. 
"I like money. I can't believe you like money, too. We should hang out." Frito
Member CONECA, Early American Coppers, NETCC
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2752 Posts |
This would be a case of clash marks blunted by subsequent die abrasion and die wear.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Moderator
 United States
196572 Posts |
Thank you, MD! 
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New Member
 United States
36 Posts |
Thanks Mike! That was my conclusion as well, but I'm not an error expert so I was hoping to get some more experienced opinions.
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