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Lincoln Set Complete - 1909-S VDB - Photos Updated

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 Posted 06/11/2012  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeturbo26 to your friends list
From the small photos, I was thinking at least AU+ ! Can't wait to see more pics! I love how the obverse has faint violet hues and the reverse is a copper salmon tone
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 Posted 06/11/2012  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
Great accomplishment! Bigger pictures would be very helpful.
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 Posted 06/11/2012  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
It has nice color and bigger images would be helpful in determining characteristic markers on the coin.

It appears to be a high AU low UNC.
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06/11/2012 10:32 am
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 Posted 06/11/2012  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Looks to me MS but the MM is very suspect. Close-up pics of the date, MM and VDB would be very helpful in determining authenticity. Whenever I see a high grade SVDB in the raw I get very suspecious. It's the most faked coin in history.
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 Posted 06/11/2012  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list

Looking at the larger pictures.

There's something about the S...
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 Posted 06/11/2012  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list
After seeing larger pics, I'm a bit suspicious. With the mintmark position it would have to be Obverse 4 but the serifs don't look vertically parallel. It may just be the photos. I would really like to see clearer pictures of the mintmark and VDB before I make a definitive judgement.
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 Posted 06/11/2012  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeturbo26 to your friends list
with the photos larger, it appears to be a totally different color!
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 Posted 06/11/2012  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdbooth to your friends list
AU55-58

A slight wear on the high points of cheek & hair above the ear. Color isn't what I would expect, but might be original. Reverse isn't clear enough on my IPhone to grade it as I would like.

If it has full luster I would say AU58.

Judging fakes isn't my forte', so I'll leave that to others.
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 Posted 08/20/2012  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jewellge to your friends list
Back from PCGS



Lincoln-Set-Complete---1909-S-VDB---Photos-Updated

but I bought this from a reputable dealer as ANACS certified in this holder as AU 50/55
Lincoln-Set-Complete---1909-S-VDB---Photos-Updated
I talked to a few dealers at a show yesterday and they all couldn't believe PCGS. The reactions ranged from 'Unbelievable' to just shaking of their heads. One of them said that they are really tough on copper. Another said to crack it out, sit it on a window sill in the sun for a couple of months to 'retone' and resubmit.

The dealer I bought it from offered an even up trade for a raw XF-45 S VDB.

Any Thoughts?

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 Posted 08/20/2012  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeturbo26 to your friends list
I'm confused. How is an Unc. (say it isn't cleaned), an even trade for an XF? And why is PCGS or even having it slabbed so important to you? Why not try anacs if you're insisting on a slab?

Just curious! It is definitely a really handsome coin.
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 Posted 08/20/2012  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
I think it is a nice coin and very happy for you finally finishing out your cent collection.....Congratulations.
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 Posted 08/20/2012  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
It's not all bad news with the details slab....at least it is genuine! CONGRATS!

Assuming the dealers saw what I suspect, I'd probably go ahead and windowsill retone it a little. It certainly doesn't look like it was harshly cleaned from the pictures, if it was cleaned at all. It looks like a nice MS coin and PCGS isn't always right.....especially when it comes to copper.
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 Posted 08/21/2012  05:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list
Congratulations
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 Posted 08/21/2012  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list
The surface is too flat for that state of preservation. This isn't the only SVDB in a Genuine slab for that very reason.
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 Posted 08/21/2012  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Telestrat27 to your friends list
Congratulations, even though it was cleaned, this is a nice coin to finish the collection!
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