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Pillar of the Community
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a coin as with any other object or service is only worth what one can sell it for. so prices are taken from sales some get records of sales form one location and another will get sales records from other places they then average the sale prices to get a decent result. one sale can blow an averege off from one book to another
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Numis is what I use. That and completed ebay auctions. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 As you check out more and more web sites for and about coins you will see that ALL prices are kind of a guess. There are numerous web sites, coin magazines, coin books, etc with prices for coins. All are just Guides. None are really solid, real, positive, accurate, etc. prices. Since there is no such thing as a manuafacturers suggested price listing on coins, the prices are what someone will pay for one. On a Quarter it is stated it is worth 25Cents or 1/4 of a dollar yet some sell for thousands. WHY? Why not? If you had a car and wanted to sell it. I ask how much and you say $10,000. If I pay that, then that is what it is worth regardless of the so called prices on cars. Some say the Grey sheet is the bible on coins. Yet almost any coin show you go to dealers sell and buy coins for less and more than that document. It's all just a big game and hobby. |
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Yes, I understand. I just know that gold and mostly silver coins are being melted because of the price of precious metals. I am going through lots of silver coins and want to save them either because of low mintage number or because of errors or condition, so I'm trying to figure out what is a legitimate FMV price. I mean if I can find a CC Morgan dollar in somewhat good shape, it's worth a lot more than just $28 of silver that someone will get paid for the melt value. If I can find a lot of unique silver coins, it's worth to group them together and send to a legitimate auction house as these are getting melted hand over fist and will disappear.... |
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Quote:I just know that gold and mostly silver coins are being melted because of the price of precious metals. I am going through lots of silver coins and want to save them either because of low mintage number or because of errors or condition, so I'm trying to figure out what is a legitimate FMV price. I mean if I can find a CC Morgan dollar in somewhat good shape, it's worth a lot more than just $28 of silver that someone will get paid for the melt value. If I can find a lot of unique silver coins, it's worth to group them together and send to a legitimate auction house as these are getting melted hand over fist and will disappear.... The ones being melted arent US currency, or they shouldnt be anyway as that is illegal to do so. But you are right some coins only go for their silver or gold value and dont have any sort of collectable premium on top of that. Generally the ones with just bullion value are the old circulation coins that had silver in them. Morgans in terrible shape from some of the common dates go for that as well. But for prices use numismedia its not 100 percent accurate but its close enough to give you an idea and will definitely be good enough to know if things are just worth melt or not |
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The ones being melted arent US currency, or they shouldnt be anyway as that is illegal to do so. US coins are being melted constantly. And every type regardless of dates. Jewlers are melting them for the Silver and smelters are melting them all for metal. Most jewlers and smelter people could care less about any so called laws about doing that. It is also illegal to murder people but that too goes on all the time. |
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US coins are being melted constantly. And every type regardless of dates. Jewlers are melting them for the Silver and smelters are melting them all for metal. Most jewlers and smelter people could care less about any so called laws about doing that.
It is also illegal to murder people but that too goes on all the time. No legitimate place would melt them down its just not worth the risk but youre right it does happen and any place that does should be reported |
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Bedrock of the Community
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The ones being melted arent US currency, or they shouldnt be anyway as that is illegal to do so. A common misconception. Melting down silver US coins is perfectly legal and has been since the anti-melting legislation of 1965 was repealed in 1971 or 72. The only coins currently illegal to melt down are cents and non-silver five cent pieces. |
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Condor didnt know that. Not sure what the logic behind that is
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Melting silver dimes and quarters would not create a shortage in the current cash supply, but melting cents and nickels will.
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Jbuck, thats probably very true. Actually now that I think about it it probably has more to do with money. Replacing pennies costs the mint money. Nickels I think are real boardline now, but replacing dollar coins or halves they would make money so probably just dont care
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Bedrock of the Community
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No legitimate place would melt them down its just not worth the risk but youre right it does happen and any place that does should be reported Reporting smelters around me that melt coins would be like stopping trafic violations. No one really cares and there is no coin police either. Most of the people in the smelters by my only know what a Peso is worth and most just don't know about laws. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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just depends on who is selling. lots of people have no idea of the real value of what they have.
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Pillar of the Community
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Also many varieties may not be listed by the seller, in fact they might not even be aware of a tough variety they have, and a coin will sell for a lot more than a common one of the same date at auction. Also any tough coin in a very high end for the grade will usually bring a lot more than another average example at the same grade. IHC are a good example of this phenomenon. I've seen high-end MS64RB sell for much more than a low end (ugly) MS65RD. Buy the coin not the grade. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2˘ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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