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Thank you all for your replies.
Indeed, behind Athena it looks to me like the same Gorgon face that appears on jwharper's link.
In this case, the connection with Athena: a Gorgon face appeared on Athena's Aegis (goat's skin that Athena wore).
I am not an expert able to identify fakes - however the coin was purchased from a reputable London shop I have visited some time ago.
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 atropos2012! Hopefully you'll hang around and learn something from these guys. I sure have. BTW ..... very nice stater.  I'm like JW, don't have much knowledge on these Greek coins but they are very beautiful! |
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Below Pegasus is the first letter in the original spelling of the city name Qorinth. After the Archaic period qoppa was dropped from the alphabet (along with digamma and san) so the only place you see them is in the numeral system (Q=90) and as the city name of Corinth. I don't own the standard reference on these coins but do know there are a lot of minor types available. See: http://www.corinthstaters.com/Look at Pegasi 427 BMC 253 & 254 'Aegis' and see if you think it is a match. They give BC 338-330 as a date. |
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dougsmit, I totally agree ... oh and amazingly, I am positive that I retreived the correct version from jwharper's link ... => stevex6 => that'll do pig, that'll do ... |
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Hi, As a new member (I joined today the 22nd of July 2012) I was thrilled to see the links and comments about my site corinthstaters.com which has been a labor of love for me over the last 18 months or so. It does my old heart a power of good to know that others are not only looking at the site but using it and finding it useful. I have been collecting the "Corinth Colts" for a while and, as there are hundreds of variants, can see no end to my collection which is really limited by my collecting budget! I look forward to being a member of this forum and raise a glass to say hello to you all. Thank You One & All, John |
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That's fantastic and welcome to the forum. By all means, come and join us in discussions on ancient coins. Many of us here are interested in ancient Greek coins as well as the Corinth Staters.
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United States
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Wow--it sounds like you have a few of these Corinth Staters. I'll look forward to seeing some pictures of your collection. |
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That is a beautiful coin. Very nice Athena portrait. Coins that nice almost make me want to collect Greek coins.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Since this thread got resurrected from the oblivion of last month's posts let me take the opportunity to mention my unpopular opinions. I love the Corinth Staters site but it falls short to me in two respects. First, it covers only the staters. Second it covers only a couple of centuries when Corinth issued the big fancy silver. Corinth issued a lot of coins that I find interesting that were smaller and or not silver. As wonderful as it is, I would like to see coins of these categories covered even 5% as well as the staters were. Regular readers here know I am a cheapskate and retired on fixed income so the likelihood of me outbidding you for staters gets more remote with every day. My job here today is to convince some of you that you need to keep me from buying any more coins of Corinth, period. As usual, you can research the details to the degree your style of collecting requires.  First is my smallest Corinth silver. From the 5th century BC and weighing in at half a gram, this was sold to me as a trihemiobol or 1/4 drachm but the weight suggests to me that it might be smaller than that. The Pegasus is the standard early version with curled wing. You can get staters to match but they are not cheap. The reverse is the head of a Gorgon. Perhaps I should have entered her as my beautiful woman coin for the Smackdown? My example is a textbook example of a silver coin that has crystallized over the centuries. It is not corroded but the silver has reformed itself into a natural pattern reasonably common with pure silver coins this old. Don't drop it.  Next is another coin both too old and too small to make the site but it is a relatively large drachm (1/3 stater, I believe?). Again Pegasus is curly winged but the lady on the reverse is Aphrodite.  My last is the low end bronze choice for those of us with no money but a desire to own Greek. Mine is 12mm and not terribly pretty due to the surfaces but does show the qoppa under Pegasus clearly. The reverse is a trident. Nicer ones show minor symbols or letters flanking the trident so you might be able to match them to the starters. I believe the coin dates to the 4th century so someone might be able to tell me how many of these you could get for a stater of that same date. I do not know. Today they probably sell for about 1/20 the price of a stater of equal eye appeal but I've never seen a really nice one and I have seen mint state staters. There are quite a few ugly ones available. http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/..._BMC_645.jpgIf I were to be able to add one more Corinth to my collection it would be a Provincial that still used Pegasus as a reverse. The Caligula is nice but I'm fond of the Septimius Severus shown above at Wildwinds. There must be a thousand choices so there really is a Pegasus for every collection. Edited by dougsmit
07/22/2012 3:25 pm
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Since this thread got resurrected from the oblivion of last month's posts let me take the opportunity to mention my unpopular opinions. I love the Corinth Staters site but it falls short to me in two respects. First, it covers only the staters. Second it covers only a couple of centuries when Corinth issued the big fancy silver. Corinth issued a lot of coins that I find interesting that were smaller and or not silver. As wonderful as it is, I would like to see coins of these categories covered even 5% as well as the staters were. Regular readers here know I am a cheapskate and retired on fixed income so the likelihood of me outbidding you for staters gets more remote with every day. My job here today is to convince some of you that you need to keep me from buying any more coins of Corinth, period. Doug, I thank you for your comments but I have one or two of my own in reply! I started the Corinth Staters web site because that is what I collect. It is a personal exercise devoted to what I own or would like to own. I added the other Corinth states like Akarnania because, for a short while, I had some of them also. However, the spread became too vast and, when somebody asked me why I wasn't including the drachma I realized that it was a case of specialize or die! I am attempting to assist collectors like myself who are enamoured of the Corinthian Colts and who possibly, unlike me, are unable to obtain or afford Romolo Calciati's 2 volume work, "Pegasi". Yes, I have a copy and deem myself lucky in this respect. One only has to peruse the first few chapters of that magnificent work to discover just how many symbols the Corinthians used. Calciati lists 526 different symbols but there is also an appendix with un-cataloged coins on many pages. As this is an exercise of love from an aged collector who is neither a dealer or expert, I am quite proud of what I have achieved so far. I will leave the other coins of Corinth to other souls to catalog, Wildwinds springs to mind but remember, I have actually worked hand in hand with Wildwinds on the restrictive subject of the so called Colts. I too am on a budget, the pension doesn't feed my passion so I am working as a part time casual to keep coin dealers from wondering where their next Mercedes is coming from! For anybody who is interested there is a page on the Corinth Staters web site that is off menu and where my own, personal collection is listed. It is at http://www.corinthstaters.com/new-john.html and, hopefully, will be even longer in the not too distant future. Yup! I can't help myself - there are others being watched, bid on and in the process of being traded. These coins will be the death of me but what a great time I am having getting there!! Regards, John. P.S. As an afterthought I do also have a small collection of Roman coins dedicated exclusively to the Emperor Augustus. If anyone is interested in that it also has an on-line presence at http://www.bungaroo.com.au/mycoins/index.html and click on the Augustus button. BR, J  |
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Valued Member
Canada
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Superb collection John, really ! And a great site also (I see you have one of my ex on your page devoted to corinthian staters :-) !!
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08/17/2012 11:58 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thank you for the reply and all the work you have put into the site. It is certainly what is needed considering the unavailability of the references.
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United States
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I love the Greek coins, but I am more the collector of Roman coins. Your collection of Augustus Denarii is fantastic. Some of these I have in my sights as well.
Regards,
JW
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08/18/2012 12:07 am
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jmhweb => wow, absolutely amazing collections!! (very humbling)  |
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