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 Posted 06/28/2012  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list
I'm trying the best I can to avoid machine rolled coin from banks. For the most part, CWR's are still well stocked with copper, at least that is what I am finding.
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 Posted 06/28/2012  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ihittheskislopes to your friends list
My average is around 23-24% from brinks boxes I've never got less than 18% and never over 32% I havent been doing cents long and I only do about a box a week.
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 Posted 06/28/2012  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list
I guess the upside is,when copper in circulation is minimal,then the melt ban will be lifted. I figure there will be an announcement that the cent will no longer be minted at the same time the melt ban is lifted. It may happen yet this year. When it does,you better melt them quickly because there will be a flood of copper into the market and the price will drop like a rock.
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 Posted 06/28/2012  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
I would question whether or not the amount of copper hoarded in copper cents is enough to lower the price of copper significantly if all melted and sold at the market at the same time. My guess would be no.
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 Posted 06/28/2012  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list
Agreed...I really don't think there are that many horders out there.
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 Posted 06/29/2012  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VGRX to your friends list
You have to wonder if you got someones dump. I'm just a rookie with only a couple hundred dollars searched but I've yet to see even a roll with not a single copper.
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 Posted 06/29/2012  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
I have done some very rough calculations:

Assuming the composition of US pennies didnt change in 1982 and they were still copper.

Roughly 3 Billion have been made weighing 3.11grams each.

3,000,000,000 x 3.11 = 933,000,000,000

Total mass of all pennies ever made in grams / 1000 to get KG = 933,000,000

Total mass of all pennies ever made in KG / 1000 to get Tonnes = 933,000

This would be much less as the composition has been changed for three decades now and the mint are pumping out pennies as fast as ever.

The expected production of Olympic Dam the Worlds largest mineral deposit once upgraded is 750,000 tonnes per year.

In one year one mine comes close to producing the total amunt of copper contained in US cents.

I doubt every US copper cent ever produced could enter the market at once but even if it did I doubt it would change the price much.


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 Posted 06/29/2012  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JobIII to your friends list
VGRX,

It depends greatly on where you are located. Like CWS has said, people from the east coast have been reporting large amounts of non-copper boxes. These are almost only brinks boxes. So if you're not getting brinks boxes or from a different part of the US you are probably okay for now.
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 Posted 06/29/2012  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

Quote:
Roughly 3 Billion have been made weighing 3.11grams each.


3 billion? That's about half of a single year's production.
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 Posted 06/29/2012  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rachums107 to your friends list


16 Billion coppers in 1982 ALONE
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06/29/2012 10:10 pm
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 Posted 06/29/2012  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list
Yea, I thought that that was kinda low.
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 Posted 06/29/2012  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
Shock horror

The internet was wrong

In that case just ignore the nutcase

300 billion is what I actually read and should have used

I still dont think its enough copper to have a massive impact on the market.
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06/29/2012 11:20 pm
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 Posted 06/29/2012  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add perfessor to your friends list
I still find lots of copper pennies on the street. They are not gone yet.
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 Posted 06/30/2012  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list
I've found using Craigslist to barter off buffs and such brings in a decent amount of wheats. People may have just a handful, but I tire of pulling 8-10/box.
But, strictly copper, I get a solid 25% in Idaho.
My g-son's Can. '20-'88 is nearly complete with the '21 coming last week.
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06/30/2012 11:20 am
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 Posted 07/07/2012  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hockingzig to your friends list
Just for fun I got 10 Brinks wrapped rolls and 10 customer wrapped rolls of cents. Again,not a single copper in the Brinks rolls but a solid 22% copper in the CWR's. I am not going back to banks that have Brinks wrapped rolls. It may be my location,but,the frequency of getting copper skunked is more than just coincidence. I will scour the area for CWR's and hope for the best. As a side note,I have not found a Wheat cent in over 3 weeks. They have gotten very scarce around here.
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