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Pillar of the Community
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... it's often funny how people can get all puffed-up and "environmentally concerned" about the following industries: => fishing, forestry, mining, petroleum ... Don't get me wrong, I have zero-tolerance for careless individuals and/or careless companies, but in today's age where there are "soooooo" many standards, procedures, safety-regulations, and new increased threshold-limits, a careless company would certainly be out of business in record-time!! (especially in Canada) ... I work for a very large mining company, and I can tell you honestly that the water we send out to our tailings pond is cleaner than the water that runs naturally across the nickel ore-bearing stream bottoms ... geese land on our tailings ponds every spring (and "not" 3-eyed geese) ... => new regulations are so strict that they are putting many companies out of business => which is probably a good thing, within reason (right?) ... The Canadian Oilsands/Tarsands and their materials handling procedures are governed and regulated by higher standards than those found in any other country and/or continent ... eh? => but sure, just like lightning might accidentally strike your Grandfather when he's out golfing, there are occasionally disasters where things can go awry ... and then I admit that the prementioned industries can seemingly look like the they are randomly running-with-scissors!! ... but I'm 100% sure that the companies that actually have enough cash to mine the Canadian tar-sands and then have enough cash left-over to send huge sea-worthy tankers to Asia are following far stricter rules and safety regulations than 99% of the rest of the companies that you coin-folk are currently running and/or working for ... but sadly, "nothing" is "fool-proof" ... SIDE-NOTE => if we actually stopped producing fossil fuels, stopped mining minerals and stopped logging, there would be complete chaos => I bet that 50% of Canadians would probably not live through a single year ... because although Nuclear and/or solar power "may" be possible future replacements for fossil fuels => the current world is "not" even close-to-being-close to running with these alternative energy sources ... People would freeze to death, or they'd starve because supplies wouldn't arrive to remote locations ... people would take logging into their own hands and you'd see a whole lotta mayhem if the radicals that are "promoting" a black-loonie were at the helm ... => it is scary how naive people can be ... Ummmm, so I'm gonna politely vote "no" to that Black-loonie idea ... 
Edited by stevex6 07/04/2012 5:59 pm
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Pillar of the Community
3352 Posts |
=> oh, and I was born, raised, and lived in Victoria for 28 years before deciding to venture-off to start my "environmentally friendly and aware" career ... I'm just sayin'
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
7096 Posts |
I have worked on dozens of different mine sites and they are far more environmentally aware and active than ANY city where most of the "tree huggers " live. On some of the sites if you even throw a cigarette butt on the ground and not in the butt disposal you will be thrown off site in a heartbeat. I think everyone should clean up our own back yard before looking over the fence. Environmental education is a great thing and I applaud it but painting a few coins wont do zip. We are getting better at looking after what we have but I put that down to what is taught to our kids at an early age in schools.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3692 Posts |
What about ducks unlimited? I say a fat NO! Money should not be propaganda - we get enough bombardment through TV, internet, bus stops, subways, billboards, radio, blah blah blah if they have money for decals then surely they have money for advertising. What's to stop me from promoting my own self on every coin I touch? C'mon.
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Valued Member
Canada
370 Posts |
I agree with the cause and since the government, industry, and media would never help them out, I say do what you have to to get the message out there.
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Pillar of the Community
3352 Posts |
ahahahaha ... hi barrie ... stevex6 here .. => hey, I absolutely love loons too ... and I definitely never want to see oil spilt on any of them ... But Dude, you live in Ontario => you live dead-centre in the middle of the nickel-belt ... => whether you like it or not, by osmosis you're a hard-rock miner!!    Hey, I'm not a radical, at all ... I just have an opinion Cheers barrie!! 
Edited by stevex6 07/04/2012 9:21 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
475 Posts |
Thumbs down on this. It is amazing the selective hypocrits in society!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2781 Posts |
novel idea, gets the point across, but personally I dont care, just with I thought of this in highschool, 
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Valued Member
Canada
278 Posts |
I have to agree with Steve and SPP on this. I live in Calgary and make my money from O&G. The two biggest mining companies (both of which start with and "S")are my biggest customers, and the extent that they take safety and environmental responsibility is beyond what anyone who does not work in this business can fathom. If you happen to get a third party consultant involved, it gets about 3 times MORE intense. I am quite sure that there are similar standards for bulk container ships. While I appreciate what the decals are intended to accomplish, perhaps greater focus should be spent on the respective responsible govts and their rules and regs regarding shipping and coastal preservation. On a related note, at the recent Global Petroleum Show, the number of companies exhibiting their environmental protection products has grown exponentially since the show 2 years ago, and is a huge segment of the O&G sector. Sadly accidents happen, but to take a guerrilla tactic like that sticker is too much. Okay...I am all calm now.... 
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New Member
Canada
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Testing first post  I've never seen one but great idea even if you don't support the cause.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
535 Posts |
It is an interesting way to get your caused noticed but is it legal to put decals on Canadian currency and circulate them?
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Valued Member
291 Posts |
I voted no. I don't believe coins should be co-opted to use for political (or other) use. Where would it end?
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Valued Member
Canada
111 Posts |
When I was living on Salt Spring Island, I participate by putting those stickers on the loonies. While I hoard silver, I have a conscious problem with myself because I encourage the mining industry by doing so. For me we should stop depleting everything on earth, and start thinking about all the consequence of all of our action. I understand that if we freeze everything it would be very chaotic, especially here where we live, in the court of the king. So we are very spoiled here. I travelled some days a distance that would have taken a whole life for somebody a century ago. I think that everything is moving too much and really fast, one day we will hit the wall. I question if we need all the gadgets (computer, cellphone, cars, ithis, ithat, etc...) for a good life. Anyway, I think that I'm going a little bit too far from the purpose of this forum which is about the faboulous world of coin that permits me to evade from the reality of life.
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Moderator
 Australia
16867 Posts |
No. Putting advertisements of any kind on coins, no matter how worthy the "cause", is a bad idea: from a numismatic standpoint (ruining perfectly good coins), a practical standpoint (the decals might cause coins to be rejected by or jam up in vending machines etc) and from a legal standpoint (defacing currency is illegal in Canada). Three strikes, they're out. 
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Canada
576 Posts |
I'll have to wait and see if one arrives in change. It's an interesting idea and although I don't agree with defacing coins the mint has already done a superb job in suggesting if not encouraging that. I'm tired of our numerous frivolous issues, many with mint-created colouring.
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