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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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In talking with error coin dealers over the years, it doesn't appear as if these planchets are defects/rejects.
Exactly how they were released into the secondary market is open for discussion. Like with many of the various error coins, however, it's likely that some available pieces are the result of legitimate accidental release while others followed a more clandestine path to "freedom."
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I would agree it was probably a mix.
I always find it very interesting how some of these errors get out and how some errors are allowed to exist while others are chased by the secret service for decades. In this case since its not money yet I'm sure they had no reason to care about these
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Cool! that is pretty awesome! I agree, it is weird to see a grade assigned to them.
Alex
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Pillar of the Community
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Would you mind saying how much your winning bid was?
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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My winning bid was less than $100. These pieces often go for more, but I think the fact that several were offered simultaneously kept the winning prices artificially low.
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Great fun indeed on the thread title commems.  You know of course that I would read it and reply ... believe I might hold the record for a reply to every one of your threads?  Sooo ... being the devil's advocate here ... What evidence makes you convinced this is a modern commemorative silver dollar planchet? Planchet specifications were the same for classic USA silver dollars ... so perhaps this is a left over planchet from the ill fated 1964-D Peace dollar strike?  David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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And how do they know it was for a commen and not a Morgan or Peace dollar? I think they are just using the text "Commem Silver Dollar Size" as an example and not as proof that it was intended for a commem, which is quite misleading and possibly false info. Shame on ANACS for doing that! They should have just dropped the Commem text, stating it was just a Silver Dollar Size. Cool buy though at a great price. I've never thought to look for a planchet like that. |
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Thanks for sharing commems. I get smarter every time I visit the US Commemoratives board. |
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Quote:And how do they know it was for a commen and not a Morgan or Peace dollar? Commems mentioned that the planchet was polished which would indicate that it was intended for striking a proof coin. In light of that, the odds of it being a proof Morgan or Peace planchet are incredibly small while the odds of it being a proof planchet for a modern commemorative dollar would be very high. |
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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Quote:...perhaps this is a left over planchet from the ill fated 1964-D Peace dollar strike. Now that I take a closer look - I think you're right! To test the theory, I put the dollar planchet on a table with a 1964-D Kennedy half-dollar and a 1964-D Washington quarter. Each was placed at the corner of a perfectly equilateral triangle. After a few seconds, all three coins began to vibrate and move closer to each other -- renewing bonds formed long ago in Denver!  (No offense intended, just a small attempt at humor.) But seriously, Quote:
What evidence makes you convinced this is a modern commemorative silver dollar planchet? It comes down to the "look" of the planchet. An un-struck planchet for a Morgan or Peace or Liberty Seated silver dollar would be anywhere from almost 80 years old to more than 170 years old at this point (the 1964-D Peace dollar not withstanding) -- they have a more "aged" look than a more recent commemorative dollar planchet. Classic silver dollar planchets that I have seen almost always have a dullish gray appearance and do not appear "fresh from the mint." In hand, the planchet I've shown here looks brand new and ready to be struck as a proof coin. PCGS, NGC and ANACS all distinguish between the classic silver dollar planchets and the modern silver dollar planchets -- after examining all the coins and planchets that they do, I'm confident in their ability to understand the differences in appearance between "new" and "old" planchets. Quote:
I think they are just using the text "Commem Silver Dollar Size" as an example and not as proof that it was intended for a commem, which is quite misleading and possibly false info. Shame on ANACS for doing that! I respectfully disagree. Each of the major grading services distinguishes between Morgan/Peace planchets and those intended for a modern commemorative dollar. PCGS, NGC and ANACS would not specify the type of planchet without being VERY sure of which type it is -- it is their reputation that is on the line. ANACS has done nothing wrong on the label for this planchet -- they have identified it correctly as a modern planchet of the correct size and weight of that of a modern commemorative silver dollar. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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07/24/2012 5:35 pm
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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believe I might hold the record for a reply to every one of your threads? You absolutely do nickelsearcher -- you have my heartfelt thanks for you unwavering support! Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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07/24/2012 4:18 pm
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Another great reply commems ... once again you have demonstrated with logic and fact that your original supposition is most likely indeed correct. Sooo ... the reason I pay attention to and reply to your posts it that you have quickly gained my respect ... and that as well of the CCF family ... with your well written knowledgeable posts on a broad range of commemorative topics. I suppose I have some knowledge of the topic ... but humbly admit that I am just a noobie in comparison to what you have obviously worked hard to achieve. Your continued contributions to this great forum are much appreciated and valued ... I still claim that you should write a book ... the breadth of your collection and the depth of your demonstrated knowledge should be shared with a larger audience. Very well done indeed for all 500+ posts. David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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but how do you assess the level of wear on a coin that hasn't been struck yet? Yes, I was wondering that as well - thank goodness it was not AU! Quote:
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Pillar of the Community
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Interesting addition to your Commem collection.
One I had not thought of, as I have blank planchets from cents, nickles, dimes and quarters.
Well... looks like I will be hunting one of these very soon.
Do you know if 90% half dollar blanks are ever offered for sale?
Thanks again for the post very interesting indeed.
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