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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wouldn't it be faster and easier to mark the rolls? You can't mark rolls that you get from a courier...these are machine wrapped, many roll hunters order boxes this way, and dump the coin loose through counters or bags. When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors...
Roll hunting since '77
Dirt fishing since '72
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Valued Member
United States
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There is a provision of law making it legal for the coin pressing machines to turn pennies into tokens. Perhaps more of the context of the law seen below doesn't expressly state putting sharpie, nail polish, spray paint, etc. as illegal....but I'd be curious to know if any of those disrespectful enough to mark coins would be inclined to send a picture of their handy work to the Secret Service for confirmation that such defacement is indeed legal.
From the USBEP "Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, Federal Reserve Bank, or Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both. Defacement of currency in such a way that it is made unfit for circulation comes under the jurisdiction of the United States Secret Service."
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You must recall seeing the ads from the 1980's, selling the gold-plated Kennedy half dollars, counterstamped and all. Not sure which company(s) were the culprits, but those coins were heavily advertised for quite some time, as were the LMC's also counterstamped by private companies. Doesn't get more blatent than that. We roll hunters find them quite often. What about all the colorized coins on the market today? When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors...
Roll hunting since '77
Dirt fishing since '72
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Permanent marker can be removed with alcohol.
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Valued Member
United States
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And spray paint graffiti can be removed from a wall with a pressure washer....so what's the point? The point is respect.
Way to keep coin collecting classy, so keep on marking you fine ambassadors of numismatics!
Edited by VetStudent
07/26/2012 7:40 pm
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 United States
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VetStudent, what you quoted from the BEP applies to Federal Reserve Notes, not coins.
However, I agree with you in principle, I do not mark or mutilate coins. Except for the elongated cents, which my four year old son collects (and I am hoping becomes a gateway into our hobby).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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VetStudent, Do you treat all the coins with class? Do you put white tissue between each coin in your pocket so as not to create a permanent ding or scratch? Do you roll search? If so, you're causing way more damage than someone who marks a few coins with a sharpie. Paint can be removed. Most dings and scratches can not.
So how would you like me to call you out about YOUR numismatic class!?!?! Does it mean you have none because every coin isn't treated with reverence?!?!
OO
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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My point is that there's a balance for everything. Marking a few common (presumably) non-collectible coins isn't going to hurt anyone. Giving hundreds or thousands an instant paint bath would be extreme, just as calling someone out for marking, dinging, or scratching a few coins would be extreme.
OO
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08/06/2012 10:33 am
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Valued Member
Canada
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I am just glad I haven't come accross this. I guess for two reasons...one being that must mean there are not that many other coin roll hunters where I am(hopefully) and two that I don't get coins I want to keep marked. Even if we can clean them, all I read is never to clean a coin... I think anyone who would do this should stop. If even for the fact if every coin collector did this from day one the coins that were trash then would possibly the ones we want now and the trash now may be the coin to collect of our kids future. This is just my opinion and I'm definitely a rookie here however, believe it's best not to mark coins, even if it's logisticly advantageous to us now.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I always get a lot of coins with markings on them. But arnt the coins from the FED all mixed up so you never really know what you are gonna get
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I always get a lot of coins with markings on them. But arnt the coins from the FED all mixed up so you never really know what you are gonna get I don't consider companies like Brinks "the Fed". Most of the coins you get are rolled in local facilities by companies such as Brinks. You may be searching the same coins over and over, with some fresh circulated mixed in. That's why many roll hunters that search volume dump outside of their pickup courier's district, or at a bank that sends their coin out via a different distributer. When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors...
Roll hunting since '77
Dirt fishing since '72
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New Member
United States
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Whenever you open a box here you you can bet on finding the same markers have marked some coins. They must really do some volume.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Whenever you open a box here you you can bet on finding the same markers have marked some coins. They must really do some volume. That, or you are searching the same coins over again when you receive your boxes, as they are re-rolled and boxed by a local distributer. When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors...
Roll hunting since '77
Dirt fishing since '72
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Valued Member
United States
381 Posts |
I regularly find half dollars that have been marked. When I search a box, I set aside the coins I wish to give a more detailed inspection even if they have been marked. I place all the marked coins in a glass dish and cover them in 90% alcohol or acetone to remove the marks. Should I not be soaking them? Is this considered cleaning? I don't clean them with the intention of selling them. I clean them to put in my Albums.
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Valued Member
United States
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On occasion I have found numerous, 100 or more, halves with permanent marker on the front or back of the coins. I have soaked them just to remove the marks. I use 90% alcohol and acetone regularly at work, so I have access to large quantities of it. I thought I was doing a favor for the other searchers who do not have the ability to remove the markings. I hope I haven't ruined anybody's system for finding out if they were getting their old dumped coins back. I will discontinue this practice.
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