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First Time Sending Coins To NGC For Grading... Questions.

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 Posted 07/28/2012  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
if you have many canadian coins their seems to be a preference for pcgs
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 Posted 07/28/2012  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poor_red_neck to your friends list
Just a bunch of circulated silver quarters for the Canadian coins. Nothing special
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 Posted 07/29/2012  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
PCGS coins do carry a bit more of a premium then ngc, but they can be real harsh on certain coins. I do believe ngc still does more world coins than pcgs does but both are good.

Neither do any sort of cleaning as far as I know as part of the standard grading, I've used PCGS and can say for sure they dont. Personally I like the look of the PCGS holders better, but which ever one you pick I would just send all the coins in at once to the same one to save shipping costs.

As far as service other than the PCGS + service and I think the NGC star service its all the same really. The only difference in the price is how long youre expected turn around time is for the coins that qualify for each service. If you dont mind the wait just pick the cheapest possible, if your impatient might want to pick one in the middle. I wouldnt recommend express or anything like that for coins values 100 since youll pay as much for grading if not more than the coins worth
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 Posted 07/29/2012  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list
Your 1876-S seems to have been counter stamped as well
as harshly cleaned at one time. Sorry. Might not be worth
the trouble/cost sending it in. If so it may come back as damaged and maybe a details grade. You can check out the TPG's sites for more info on this.
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 Posted 07/29/2012  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Basically at coin shows or in many coin stores you'll hear "Of course it cost more, it's in a PCGS slab"
Not sure why but that is what so many believe. And remember that if you suspect your coins are worth less than $50, the cost of having them graded and slabbed may not be worth that cost. And for a coin you think is MS-60 and you send it in and it comes back EF or AU, you could be a little dissapointed and for sure have a coin worth much less than the cost of having it graded.
It is amazing how many coins I've seen worth a few dollars in a slab.
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 Posted 07/29/2012  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Captain Morgan to your friends list
From what I saw the pictures you posted, well they look to me to have been cleaned and you may be wasting your time and money to send these into a 3rd. party grader.
I also am going to send in a few coins to NGC, like a pair of 1928 Peace dollar and have
maybe 25 Morgans that IMHO are all MS. I like NGC's holder better than the others out there.
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 Posted 07/29/2012  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add regularguy to your friends list
I just recently sent some of my coins out to ICG in Tampa FL. What I did was go to a local show that had a representative there, and showed him what I had. After some examination he thought that they were of high enough condition to be graded. I am not sure that I would have sent them out otherwise. At the show I also got a discount which helped.
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 Posted 07/30/2012  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Sorry to say, but your coins all appear to have been cleaned and will not slab IMO.
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 Posted 07/30/2012  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poor_red_neck to your friends list
Well dang that sucks.... inherited these from my Fiance's father... been sitting in a storage trailer for 30 something years. Guess he cleaned them a while back. I sure as heck haven't done anything other than a gentle wipe with a shammy. No chemicals abbrasives or anything.

What is it that makes them look cleaned? The little hair line scratches? They are circulated coins... so at what point is it "normal circulated damage" and "clear evidence of cleaning"

Thank you all for your help thus far.
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07/30/2012 3:49 pm
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 Posted 07/30/2012  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
You can see hairline scratches all over them. Also, coins of this age would show some level of toning or dirt, these do not.
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 Posted 07/30/2012  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jokingjoker to your friends list

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a gentle wipe with a shammy.


Even this should be avoided. Any contact with the coin can leave microscopic scratches that although wont be visible to the naked eye, can be seen under magnification.
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 Posted 07/30/2012  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
Im wondering if that shammy wipe are the scratch marks were seeing on the coin.


If you really wanted to though you could carry the coins around for a while till they wear down enough to have the top layer removed then could have them graded. Theyll lose a grade or two but wont come back with the cleaned label
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 Posted 07/31/2012  01:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poor_red_neck to your friends list
Ok thanks for the tip. Won't mess with them at all from now on :-)
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 Posted 08/01/2012  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poor_red_neck to your friends list
Ok... I'm really confused here.

Now I'm not saying I don't trust ya'lls opinions that the fine scratches will come back as cleaned, but in comparison to some coins I'm seeing on ebay, it just doesn't make sense.

I'm using a POS point and shoot camera, at probably the worst angles so the flash is over exaggerating any scratches. They are really hardly noticeable to the naked eye even in sunlight.


Now I'm selling a very similar coin on ebay right now, and saw this one. Mainly I just wanted to look at it because it's a beautiful coin. However when I look at the high-res picture...I see all kinds of hairline scratches on the surface. How can that grade as a MINT STATE 65, which is pretty darn high (right?), with those scratches on it. And I'm sure he's using a MUCH better lens/camera and light conditions than I am.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1947-Panama..._1720wt_1270

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08/01/2012 5:52 pm
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 Posted 08/01/2012  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list
It can be scratched and still grade, just not if theyre cleaning scratches
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