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Conserve (Not Clean) A Kennedy

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 Posted 07/30/2012  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
OK, so check Amidas EZ-est experiment post

https://goccf.com/t/125536
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 Posted 07/30/2012  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harthag to your friends list
OK, there have been some responses that seemed to have missed a key point so I'll restate it and paraphrase for clarity:

These specific coins are heirlooms. Significant sentimental value. Buying new coins defeats the purpose. The idea is to improve the appearance of an object with sentimental value, not acquire new objects because they look better.
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 Posted 07/31/2012  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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The idea is to improve the appearance of an object with sentimental value, not acquire new objects because they look better.
In my opinion, the risk is not worth it, especially where sentimental value is concerned. BadThad offers the best advice...

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The best action would be to rinse the coins in a high quality acetone and put them into AirTite brand holders to arrest the toning process.
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 Posted 07/31/2012  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
The problem there is that acetone will do nothing to remove toning/tarnish. as I said, a short dip will remove the tarnish and improve the look of the coins.
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 Posted 07/31/2012  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Correct. Personally, I would not want to remove the toning or tarnish.

Point is, while you are certainly adept at the art of dipping, I would not want a new collector experimenting with it (at least not on coins with strong sentimental value).
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 Posted 07/31/2012  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list

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I would not want a new collector experimenting with it (at least not on coins with strong sentimental value).


jbuck, exactly why I said


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I would highly suggest practicing on some known lower grade halves before doing it on your coins.
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 Posted 08/01/2012  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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The problem there is that acetone will do nothing to remove toning/tarnish. as I said, a short dip will remove the tarnish and improve the look of the coins.


That's not a problem, it's a SAFE move to preserve something sentimentally important to the OP. Dipping is NOT worth the risk and would be a foolish move. Right now, the coins have a nice, original look to them and they would be appreciated by future generations as is. Why risk ruining that?
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OK, there have been some responses that seemed to have missed a key point so I'll restate it and paraphrase for clarity:

These specific coins are heirlooms. Significant sentimental value. Buying new coins defeats the purpose. The idea is to improve the appearance of an object with sentimental value, not acquire new objects because they look better.

Sort of my opinion too. Only I'd leave them as is. I'd put them in a 2x2, seal the edges with tape forever. I too have coins from my Dad, given to me over 60 years ago and I still have them as is. They are not just coins, they are something from someone now gone.
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 Posted 08/01/2012  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
Thad, I see what you are saying, but the OP specifically stated he wanted to do something to remove the tarnish. All my commentary is based on that.
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 Posted 08/01/2012  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yinzi50 to your friends list
I know that NCS has a way to do it. But never figure it out how they do it.
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 Posted 08/02/2012  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harthag to your friends list
Well, when I posted my original topic, I didn't really expect to create such a heated debate ...
There have been a lot of great suggestions and explanations from both "sides" of the "argument" and I really do appreciate that from everyone that has participated ...
So far, I think smokeridredon has captured the spirit of my original questions the best, so I would like to thank you specifically for your great input and enthusiasm in trying to find a way to address both parts of my concern, both to improve the appearance, and avoid damage to the coins. And thanks to amida17 and another thanks to smokeriderdon for the great pics on the experiments with coins, for the time and effort put in to that.
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 Posted 08/03/2012  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harthag to your friends list
smokeriderdon, I would have posted this in the EZ-est experiemtn thread but jbuck seems to have locked it and I certainly agree with jbuck's final comment to that thread and agree that it should have been locked (at least I assume it was jbuck, not really sure about how that works).

But I wanted to let you know that I did catch the vibe that the EZ-est method was to be practiced on less important coins before being attempted on those with sentamental value. Rest assured, no rash action will be taken, and no attempt will be made to improve the appearance of the coins without practicing the method before hand, no matter what method is decided upon.
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 Posted 08/03/2012  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Keep in mind that you need to practice on "like" coins with the exact same metallic composition and with similar toning. Nonetheless, coin conservation is a VERY tricky thing and no two coins will respond the exactly same way. In general, going beyond standard solvents like water, acetone and xylene, is best left to the experts.

On another note, I've seen many people just like you come and go over the years. I venture to say 99% of them ended up ruining their coins.
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 Posted 08/03/2012  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
hart, yes, it was jbuck.

I am glad you caught all that I said.


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no two coins will respond the exactly same way.
OK, how so? Setting aside the obvious fact that a silver coin is not the same as a nickel or copper coin so those metals will react differently. Silver has the same chemical reaction to the dip no matter if its a 64 Kennedy or a 64 Seated. Unless there is residue of a chemical actually on the coin, I dont see how the reaction is going to be drastically different.

Personally I have not seen a drastic difference in reactions from silver coins to any treatment for similar problems.
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 Posted 08/06/2012  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sandpaper to your friends list
Years back, with my roll finds, I got out the silver polish and poured a bunch on a big hunk of paper towel. The stuff is slippery and I would get the coins good and wet and lay them down. Then grab and rub them, one at a time, with the wet towels. I would try to get them all done as quick as I could and then wash them by hand with lots of dish detergent. I would then blot them dry and lay them down on towels to really dry. I did stop this blasphemy after being effected by the CC angel in my head. The coins still all look great as they are kept in tubes.


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