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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Well, in the UK, our 5p recently changed from Cupronickel to steel. The 2012 issue is magnetic, thicker and is quite hard to find because people have been keeping then. Our pennies changed a while back to copper plated steel.
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Rest in Peace
United States
1729 Posts |
That Japanese aluminum one-yen coin has all but disappeared from circulation in Japan.
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Valued Member
United States
139 Posts |
So what happens when you need 6 cents in change if we have no nickels or pennies? Do I get a dime? I doubt it. Do they get to keep my change? Strange times we live in.
@Sap - We could stave off inflation if we stopped printing so much darn money and living in a debt based system.
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 Australia
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Quote: So what happens when you need 6 cents in change if we have no nickels or pennies? Do I get a dime? I doubt it. Do they get to keep my change? For many transactions, there won't be any "change" for them to keep. Assuming that American retailers follow the lead of countries that have already abolished their equivalent of a 1 cent coin, then shops that anticipate selling just a few items (such as local corner stores or fast food outlets) will actually lower their prices down, from $x.99 to $x.95 - they would do this to maintain the "cheapness illusion" that 99ยข pricetags create. Big retailers, the supermarkets and megastores, will probably keep their prices to the nearest cent, and only apply rounding to the final total. So if your grocery bill comes out to $87.26, they'll round it down to $87.25. Quote: We could stave off inflation if we stopped printing so much darn money and living in a debt based system. No, you couldn't. And if you don't believe me, ask the Romans. The denarius began life in the Republican period as a fine silver coin, slightly bigger than a silver dime. But as the republic evolved into the Empire, cash-strapped emperors discovered they could increase the money supply simply by diluting the coinage, making the finite amount of silver they owned go further. Merchants and foreign powers simply raised their prices to compensate, and so the inflationary spiral began. By 300 AD, the denarius had devolved to a tiny coppery shard with a silver content so low you'd need modern analytical equipment to detect it. Occasionally, an emperor was wealthy enough and the Empire prosperous enough to attempt to reverse the decline and un-inflate the denarius, but such reforms were always short-lived, undone either by that emperor's successors or by that emperor himself when he needed the cash. Granted, without paper money, credit cards and the other jiggery-pokery of the modern financial system, the whole process took longer - centuries instead of decades. But it still happened.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
United States
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No, you couldn't. And if you don't believe me, ask the Romans. The denarius began life in the Republican period as a fine silver coin, slightly bigger than a silver dime. But as the republic evolved into the Empire, cash-strapped emperors discovered they could increase the money supply simply by diluting the coinage, making the finite amount of silver they owned go further. Merchants and foreign powers simply raised their prices to compensate, and so the inflationary spiral began. By 300 AD, the denarius had devolved to a tiny coppery shard with a silver content so low you'd need modern analytical equipment to detect it.
Occasionally, an emperor was wealthy enough and the Empire prosperous enough to attempt to reverse the decline and un-inflate the denarius, but such reforms were always short-lived, undone either by that emperor's successors or by that emperor himself when he needed the cash.
Was it me or did you just make my points?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: We could stave off inflation if we stopped printing so much darn money and living in a debt based system. Sap made a good point. The problem is greed - and that will never be ousted from the human nature. However, there IS some vailidity to the idea of not printing money at such an insane pace. If we would get back to a congress who understands the concept historically proven in the US to keep us on the profit side aka. let the people keep more of the money they make; business owners re-invest to keep on the cutting edge or else go under if they simply pocket the profits; more jobs are created to fill the ongoing research/production/product concepts/dispersal etc.; so the economy as a whole comes out on top with a balanced budget, the system will have to work again. The profit cycle continues. Our history proves it cannot be stopped by anything but human intervention of powermongers and greed.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Earle, so true. The government spends time money, and manpower trying to do everything for people with handouts, but it's really just money that took from us in the first place! Which means for every dollar we give them, after every person along the way gets a piece of it, then they only have a fraction left to spend on giving back to the people. And a lot of government handout programs are really wasteful. Foodstamps helps a lot of people, but when I worked at Walmart people came in using their foodstamps for sodas, chips, candies, STARBUCKS frappacinos and it made me so mad that I pay taxes so these people could have luxuries that I can't afford as a college student. Why should they take my money and give it to people my parents age so they can eat like my younger brother? Back to the topic... I REALLY wish the gov would stop making pennies. In 2011 the gov spent about $70mil making about $30mil worth of pennies. Oh me, oh my, how could we EVER shrink the deficit? If the governmet PAID the 0 to 4 cents on every transaction made instead of making pennies, it would still be better for their budget than making the pennies. Obviously that will never happen. Rounding the total purchase in the favor of the customer when the penny is eventually removed will probably happen. None of that is on the radar yet though....
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Quote: the gov spent about $70mil making about $30mil worth of pennies But isn't it the governments duty, to provide us with coinage? Yeah I get how yoou think it shouldn't cost more than face, but as soon as each penny is spent four times, does that not makes the governments investment worth it? Aww, whatever, they'll be gettin' rid of it soon enough, just because we did  
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: So what happens when you need 6 cents in change if we have no nickels or pennies? Do I get a dime? I doubt it. No, but if you need eight cents in change, you would. 
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New Member
United States
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They are trying their hardest not to stop the penny or nickel production. If you take out the penny and nickel, inflation will happen faster. They won't even print $500 bill because of this. Inflation hurts the rich and not as much for the middle class or poor. If you have lots of money, inflation is your ENEMY, then you want to stop inflation by all means. If you are in lot's of debt, have a huge mortgage with low interest and etc, inflation is your FRIEND. If you live paycheck to paycheck and no money, no debts, bring on the inflation and let the filthy rich suffer. The rich run this country and inflation has been low for 30 years.
The lid is about to burst and here comes our next bubble. Mark my word.
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Valued Member
United States
139 Posts |
What if you have a fair amount of money that you worked really, really hard for and saved up but aren't filthy rich? I think that still brings that suffering feeling. Is that may fault for saving up my money? I guess I should have bought more precious metals and not saved in USD. I guess the savers are a dying breed today due to that tricky thing called inflation.
Edited by agibby5 12/22/2012 10:57 pm
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Moderator
 United States
188747 Posts |
Quote: If you take out the penny and nickel, inflation will happen faster. No, it will not.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
809 Posts |
As a collector of one cent coins...I hope they never stop producing them!! 
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Moderator
 United States
188747 Posts |
I am sure if they stop making them for circulation, they will still make them for collectors. Just look at the Kennedy half dollar, for example.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
979 Posts |
I collect cents, but I care more about our country and the economy. They need to stop wasting money. Not just in this, but in general.
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