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 Posted 08/10/2012  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list
OldSkoolMadSkilz - congratulations on buying the books! I still need the late dates book and had hoped to find a used one, but haven't had much luck.

Regarding the attribute markers - often you can determine the variety without having to verify most or all of the markers. If you find one marker then you can either include or exclude varieties based on that one fact. Of course it gets complicated when you encounter a large number of varieties in a particular year.
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 Posted 08/11/2012  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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The Noyes two volume set 1816 through 1857.

The two volume Noyes books are 1793 through 1839.


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I've been looking online for that two book series. Haven't found anything under $240.00. I'm trying to find a used set at a better price.

Good luck. There is only one distributor for those books, Charlie Davis, and the first volume is only sold as part of the set. The second book does sell separately and sometime it will turn up used at a lower price. But the first book rarely shows up by itself and the set seldom comes on the after market either. About the only place I've seen them at a lower price has been in the literature auctions that Fred Lake runs. That was where I got my volume two (which I now need to replace). He had a set that sold separately in his last sale but they went for $150 and $100 respectively. That doesn't include the juice, packing or shipping. At that rate you can buy a brand new set cheaper from Charlie.
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 Posted 08/11/2012  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
This is a new set. The first book 1816-1845 and the second is 1846-1857. There is a 5 on the spine of the first and 6 on the other, which makes it sound like these are a continuation of the earlier ones, not a new edition. Can't explain the middle date overlap.
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 Posted 08/11/2012  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list
OldSkool: Who wrote the books you picked up. I'm not familiar with those two volumes, covering those dates. I have what Condor said.

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 Posted 08/12/2012  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
William Noyes. From what I understand they JUST came out. Do you have a way to get hold of Jon Lusk?
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 Posted 08/12/2012  06:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
I think you've bought the wrong books. I think what you've purchased are copies of the extended condition census listings. It is a record of the finest 10 to 20 known pieces and pedigree of each for each variety. They are not the variety identification books. Volume 1 was 1793 and 94, volume 2 was 1795 through I think 1797. I wasn't aware the later volumes had been published yet.
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 Posted 08/12/2012  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
All of the above is why I use the Whitman year only Large Cent Albums. At coin shows when looking for a Large Cent date, so many dealers start in with all that detailed stuff and I just say, I have year only Albums for those. I get some odd looks but sure saves me going nuts looking for all those varieties.
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 Posted 08/12/2012  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
Nope, they are attribution guides. Hot off the presses. Nice color plates. Check out the detail. I scaled it way down so that it isn't usable to avoid violating the copyright.

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Here's the cover. It's actually more of a maroon color.



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 Posted 08/12/2012  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list
I hope you didn't burn your hands on these books, them being hot off the press. I haven't seen them advertised in EAC pub/online? I wonder how these compare to the Grellman/Wright books? Don't mean to press this further but do they attribute for example all 26 N#s for 1846, all 43 N#s for 1847, and all 45 N#s for 1851?

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 Posted 08/12/2012  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
You betcha. These things are BIG. At least one page for each and more if there is variation between die states. Lots of soiled images for the late die states.
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 Posted 08/12/2012  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
Zoomed not soiled. Danny phone spell checker!
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 Posted 08/12/2012  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add judd1552 to your friends list
You would have been better off with the Grellman attribution guide for late dates, 1840-1857.
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 Posted 08/12/2012  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
I also needed a middle dates book, so this is perfect.
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 Posted 08/13/2012  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Impressive I haven't heard anything about these books (but I haven't read this weeks Region 8 newsletter yet) but they look good. Plates look better than in his previous 16 - 39 book. it would be interesting to see how good it is on the late dates. looks like I have a couple more books to add to my wish list.


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Don't mean to press this further but do they attribute for example all 26 N#s for 1846, all 43 N#s for 1847, and all 45 N#s for 1851?

I would expect them to do so.
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 Posted 08/13/2012  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
Conder

For middle dates, it's typically just plates of the obverse and reverse and then die state plates for some. For late dates, there's lots of little zoomed in images for the subtle attributes. Both books are the same size, but as the first covers three decades, and the second one, you can see where the extra detail is.
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